Talk:Honolulu County, Hawaii
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This article is redundant. There is no "Honolulu County" in Hawaii - Marshman 04:40, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
The official rendering, as prescribed by the City Charter of Honolulu is the City & County of Honolulu, not the City and County of Honolulu. Please do not edit this article and other articles that use the official term.
- I have always felt (as a citizen of the City & County of Honolulu) that the official way was using the ampersand (&). But the city's own official website mostly uses "City and County". I agree, leave it as City & County, but take away this lesson: there are damn few official correct sources of information - Marshman 02:24, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I have a map which shows that Honolulu County only covers the city limits of Honolulu, and that the rest of the island is Oahu County. I've tried to find info online to prove or disprove that it is one way or the other, but I can't find anything conclusive. (Maybe it was historically this way?) I have also heard that Honolulu County also covers the uninhabited minor outlying islands at the northwest end of the state. Can anyone confirm or deny these bits of knowledge? -radiojon 04:36, 2003 Aug 27 (UTC)
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- There is no such entity as Oahu County since the the charter revisions that created the office of Mayor of Honolulu and the Honolulu City Council in the early 1900s. The legal boundaries of the entity called the City & County of Honolulu is comprised of the entire island of Oahu and the various Northwestern Hawaiian Islands. The city and county are coextensive, meaning they share the same exact boundaries. I'd have to say your map might be worth something if it says that Honolulu County only covers the city limits of Honolulu and the rest makes up the County of Oahu. It is not and never was that way. Previous to the creation of the county however, Oahu was known as a royal administrative region, administered by its own governor appointed by the monarch. Even then, Honolulu was coextensive with the island. --Gerald Farinas 01:42, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I too (like Gerald) am a citizen of the City & County of Honolulu and can tell you Gerald is exactly right in everything he says—although I'd say there is only one government entity (City & County of Honolulu) so there is not a city and county to be "co-extensive" or share anything. I suppoase the "city limits" alluded to could be the state district of Honolulu, which appears on USGS topographic maps; these maps would also show the entire island as Oahu and I do not believe have any indication of City & County jurisdiction shown. I'm also amazed you could not find anything online you regarded as "conclusive". The City & County of Honolulu has a very well-developed website that seems quite conclusive. Also, Wikipedia has a lot info on this subject which is not only well written, authoratative, but regularly checked and rechecked by plenty of Hawaii residents. - Marshman 02:18, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- There is no such entity as Oahu County since the the charter revisions that created the office of Mayor of Honolulu and the Honolulu City Council in the early 1900s. The legal boundaries of the entity called the City & County of Honolulu is comprised of the entire island of Oahu and the various Northwestern Hawaiian Islands. The city and county are coextensive, meaning they share the same exact boundaries. I'd have to say your map might be worth something if it says that Honolulu County only covers the city limits of Honolulu and the rest makes up the County of Oahu. It is not and never was that way. Previous to the creation of the county however, Oahu was known as a royal administrative region, administered by its own governor appointed by the monarch. Even then, Honolulu was coextensive with the island. --Gerald Farinas 01:42, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
