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[edit] Info

I created this article because there are numerous other articles linked here. I'm not able to find a lot of info on HRC except through their website, so a lot of the wording is very "commercial" which I don't like. Please help contribute here. Roguegeek 01:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main Image

I'd like to find a nice image of the HRC logo to replace the image of the RC211V. Can't seem to find a nice one that can be used for promotional purposes. Happy hunting. Roguegeek 04:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal

I merged the Repsol Honda article into this one, it is HRC who is competing entering a team in MotoGP under the name Repsol Honda, much like Ducati Corse is racing under the name Ducati Marlboro Team Chris Ssk talk 01:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm also in the process of ading team info before 1995 Chris Ssk talk 01:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
That looks incredible sloppy and irrelevant. These things are also two separate subjects. One is a corporation that specializes in developing motorcycle racing products. The other is a race team with a sponsor that has no direct link to the corporation beside the fact they get equipement and development from them. Two separate entities. I'm reverting this major change so it can be discussed with all editors involved. It's, frankly, too large of an edit for a sole editor to make a decision on. Roguegeek (talk) 22:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually Repsol Honda is run by HRC, it is run out of HRC's european office at Aalst, Belgium and HRC Japan has direct input and overall control over the outfit. Chris Ssk talk 11:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
A race team sponsored by Repsol YPF and a subsidiary of Honda that develops parts are separate things. It's probably more deserving of being placed into the Repsol YPF article. Roguegeek (talk) 14:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
They are not separate things. HRC is the motorcycle racing subsidiary of Honda Motor Company and they run all the factory teams, they also make products that can be used by others for racing. it even says it on the article lead
The company combines participation in motorcycle races throughout the world with the development of high potential racing machines. Its racing activities are an important source for the creation of leading edge technologies used in the development of Honda motorcycles. HRC also contributes to the advancement of motorcycle sports through a range of activities that include sales of production racing motorcycles, support for satellite teams, and rider education programs.
In MotoGP they take part under the name Repsol Honda. Its common practise, Ducati Corse is a subsidiary of Ducati that runs the factory team in MotoGP under the name Ducati Marlboro, Yamaha Motor Racing is a subsidiary of Yamaha that runs the factory team under the name Fiat Yamaha. Kawasaki Motors Racing is a subsidiary of Kawasaki that runs the factory team under the name Kawasaki Racing.
it doesn't matter who the sponsor is, its Repsol now it could be someone else next season. HRC runs the factory team in MotoGP, HRC is the one that makes the decisions, signs the riders, suppliers etc [1][2][3] the team is HRC. Go to world.honda.com/MotoGP/team that has links to all the Honda MotoGP teams websites. Repsol Honda links to HRC's webpage. Same thing in Honda's Japanese website, Repsol Honda's official website is listed as http://www.honda.co.jp/HRC Also check the Japanese HRC page who has more info on HRC's racing teams [4]. Chris Ssk talk 00:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

No consensus has been met here. Please do not make these changes without further discussion. Let's go get editors from the motorcycle racing projects and try to avoid an edit war. Roguegeek (talk) 20:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely HRC and Repsol Honda are separate entities and should have separate articles. Repsol Honda is a subsidiary of HRC, but it is not the same thing. HRC is responsible for support in other classes and series, while Repsol Honda is strictly a MotoGP team with its own history.--Rubber Nipple Salesman (talk) 18:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

At the current state of things, there is no point in keeping two separate article IMO. Sure the MotoGP racing team entered by HRC has its own notability, but take a look at the Scuderia Ferrari article for example. The Scuderia entered its cars in the Formula One World Championship, but also in the World Sportscar Championship and in many other competitions; still, there is not enough material to have two different articles, and the same applies in this case. Having two different articles, with some bits of information each doesn't have much sense, we should have an article with a broader scope instead. Asendoh (talk) 22:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)