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[edit] Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937

Hey! Thanks for your concern on my rating of the article on Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937. First off, let me state that importance ratings mean pretty much nothing (and are almost 100% subjective). There are VERY VERY few articles i give a top importance, and 90% of all articles i give a low rating. Also, to get a rating above a B, it has to be really really good. That being said, you say there is only one reference. Are there not any media references? (media coverage, a news story, something else like that) that could be cited? If there is not, that would probably reinforce my rating of mid importance. How important is it overall to the global concept of aircraft? (keep in mind, I may have rated it higher if it was part of a different project.) Hope this helped explain my ratings. If there is anything else you are concerned about or would like to diescuss, please let me know on my talk page. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Might I also reccomend using named refs for citations in the article. That way, you can use a citation multiple times and have it only show once in the refernces section. If you need help with this, I would be more than glad to help ya. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
OK. No prob... I dont see a reason for ref's, but if we do some, then they should be named... --Homer Landskirty 16:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
OK. --Homer Landskirty 16:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Is the section on the Nielsen murder in the reports or is that from other sources? -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:18, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I dont care so much for that section, since it is not so closely related to that accident itself. But I understand, that this murder can be seen as a social/juristical aspect of the accident. I added a reference to a web page of SkyGuide (a private company that employed Nielsen and that was effectively (not necessarily juristically) responsible at that time). --Homer Landskirty 17:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I hope you do not take offense, i am going through a citing several of the sections with the information I can find. When I first started here, i wrote my first article without any citations. I have slowly began to get used to them and now, the first thing i look at when i see an article is citations. If there are none, i rarley rely on teh article because it could be uncredible. (while articles with citations can still be uncredible), at least the soruces can be checked. There are several sections in this article that did not come from the orginial report (at least it appears that way). I am just taking my time, reading up on it and adding appropriate citations. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
No - its ok for me... --Homer Landskirty 19:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
you would not happen to have citations for the following conent would ya? I am having trouble finding it. "Campioni was supposed to fly the next leg of the journey as handling pilot." and "Many believe that this accident could have been avoided if the proper lessons had been taken from a near-miss which occurred about a year before the Bashkirian-DHL collision". That would be very helpful in enhancing this article? I have also tagged these sentences within the article with the {{Fact}} template. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... I think, the co-pilot was flying, while the pilot (PIC?) was doing the radio... See page 7 of the official BFU report... How they spread their tasks, if they would have been able to continue their flight past 21:35:32, is not so interesting (most likely some reporter sucked that info out of his fingers...)... --Homer Landskirty 19:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
That "near miss" might be this incident near or over Japan [1] (maybe we should do an article about that, too?), where they had some injuries and a similar situation (all flight deck crews decided to ignore the ATCO and to obey the TCAS). Then there was a change proposal CP112 for TCAS (it contained something about a reversal RA in case of missing success after the (original) RA has been executed; page 35 of that BFU report). --Homer Landskirty 19:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lisa Nowak

Thanks for your input about Lisa Nowak! Please keep in mind, whilst your thoughts about NASA may be interesting to some, your personal speculations are original research. The article may only include documented, verifiable accounts and interpretations from reliable, published secondary sources and the talk page is meant for discussing those and how to integrate them into a helpful article. Personal thoughts briefly thrown in to accompany these citations are ok for context but otherwise have no place on the talk page. Meanwhile, welcome to Wikipedia! Gwen Gale 19:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Homer, with all due respect, I have deleted the stalking thread you started as nonsense. Unless you can cite a reliable secondary source, it is not an acceptable topic for the talk page. If you would like to discuss it here, however, that's ok. I'll watch this page and will be happy to respond. Thanks for your understanding. Gwen Gale 19:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Oke doke... :-) I still think, that the information in the article is contradictious, what was the reason for beginning that "stalking thread"... The contradiction is: If there really was stalking activity since weeks, then it is very unlikely that this pepper spray assault happened, because the paths between Air force and NASA/Navy and even Army cannot be so long... And if Shipman liked it so much, that she did not complain, why doesnt she like the pepperspray, too? <-- That was a little too provoking possibly... --Homer Landskirty 19:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The pith here is... I don't think many would agree with your logic. Shipman mentioned the stalking on her request for a restraining order and she didn't say she liked it. You're right about one thing though, your conflations of the facts into these speculations are provocative, wholly unsupported and potentially disruptive, so I think it would be so helpful if you'd keep your comments about this here on your talk page :) Gwen Gale 19:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it looks like, not many would agree with my logic... Now I wonder, when she was aware of the stalking the first time, and what she did to stop it, and why it didnt work. But I can live with that uncertainity... :-) Maybe in some months we can complete the article, when the missing information is published... --Homer Landskirty 19:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

thread completed. [please remove this line, if u want to continue it in spite of this line] --Homer Landskirty 19:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937

I notice you have twice altered the spelling from Commonwealth English to American English. In accordance with WP:ENGVAR this is prohibited. Thanks for your well-meaning effort, but I have undone your change, while keeping a useful distinction you made. Best wishes, --Guinnog 18:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Okidoke... I think, this is, because F.Rep.GERM is in the EU (so british spelling)? --Homer Landskirty 19:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that logic works for me. What matters most is not to change from one version to another, except where the subject of the article is unambiguously American, British, Australian etc. I added the link you suggested. Thank you for your help in making the article a little better. --Guinnog 19:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok... I installed the british spelling dictionary for my browser and found some further spelling errors... Cross-check, please. --Homer Landskirty 19:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
If you are interested in doing typo corrections, there is always work needing to be done at WP:TYPO. What part of Germany are you from? --Guinnog 20:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I was born/raised in/near Kiel (northern GERM), currently I live near Hamburg (northern GERM) and I was resident of several cities in GERM (Munich (southern GERM), Berlin (eastern GERM), Essen (western GERM)). --Homer Landskirty 20:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I love Hamburg, Berlin, Munchen and Tubingen. I have had many good times in these places. Welcome, and good work. --Guinnog 21:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thx. --Homer Landskirty 21:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937

Hiya. Just wanted to thank you for your edits to this article. For once, it seems the wikitags functioned in the manner for which they were designed. I was worried for a brief moment that someone had gone back and simply reverted the edits I made, inserting the weasel and who tag - but lo and behold, it was a dedicated editor! So, thank you, and good job. --Action Jackson IV 18:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thx. :-) --Homer Landskirty 19:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

You may want to check back at the article, Scientology and democracy, and add some more sourced citations. Smee 15:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

Yup - I just saw it and commented on ur "hangon"-intervention... I have that article on my watch list... I hope my reply is not obstructive or inconceivable... --Homer Landskirty 15:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Nope. Smee 15:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Hi

See, I have a fast computer. lol :) - Jeeny Talk 16:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

 :-) --Homer Landskirty 16:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving this here because now MY talk page is acting FUNNY

What's up with that? Are YOU using "special" coding? - Jeeny Talk 16:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Never not! :-) Ur 'puter has a virus... --Homer Landskirty 16:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Good. But, I certainly don't have a virus. It's the template while using IE. It's only the template. I've had other templates do the same though, but it is in the template, not a virus... And because I use sh'tty MS IE. I have all my "stuff" on here, and do not have the patience to move it all to Firefox, right now. Nor should one expect me or others to do the same, because of your feelings about MS. :) - Jeeny Talk 17:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
And I stick to my opinion, that u have some kind of computer virus (malicious code) on ur box... Furthermore u spread ur selfmade problems everywhere (e. g. on my talk page)... :-)) --Homer Landskirty 17:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I do NOT have a virus. well the only "virus" I have is Microsoft, as that can be concidered malicious code, I guess. And, what "selfmade problems" am I spreading? - Jeeny Talk 17:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
This for example... --Homer Landskirty 17:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Should I change the title? I reacted inappropriately by wording the heading and comment in such a way. I didn't believe you were using "special" coding to hurt anything. Sorry. - Jeeny Talk 17:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 :-) I dont care... :-) --Homer Landskirty 18:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] template kennedyfamilytree

In so far u claim, that u have a problem with QoS (speed-related) when u use {{kennedyfamilytree}}, I am quite sorry, that ur browser does not behave so good; but i wish to tell u hereby that this template is quite interesting and surely not faulty (because my four (4) years old box can display and scroll it nicely). Thx. --Homer Landskirty 09:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I may advise u, that u might want to use Mozilla Firefox? --Homer Landskirty 09:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I have another idea: If u still feel like that template should not be used anymore, then u could just change the template itself (e. g. by commenting out the tree)... (template:kennedyfamilytree) --Homer Landskirty 11:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I personally think the family tree template is very interesting. My concern is not only with my choice of browser, but others too. Wikipedia should be accessed by anyone. Especially those who have little money to afford faster computers, etc. If I have a problem on my fast, cable connection then I know others with a slower connection will have it worse, and may not even be able to access the articles with that template. Also, Wikipedia does not specify a type of browser to use, and should not expect others to change their browser just for Wikipedia. Even though the Mozilla browser doesn't seem to have the same problems with this template as does IE, one should not be made to use one over another of their choice. But, that is not the issue. All browsers should be able to display the pages without becoming "high jacked", (as I call it). I do not know how to make templates or I would try to "fix" it. Is there another way to use it, such as a graphic? Thanks. - Jeeny Talk 15:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I just have a 1mbit/sec inet connection and an Athlon XP 2400+, which is quite old... And I have no problems... I feel quite bad, when I read, that wikipedia should adapt to some crazy implementations (like Microsoft's IE)... As long as this template does not contain malicious code, that hinders IE to behave like a good web browser, we shouldnt change anything... We r not here to help Microsoft to come through with every sh*t human beeings could produce and sell... --Homer Landskirty 16:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... An image would be surely possible, but it would not allow hyper-refs (i.e. u couldnt click a name in that image)... --Homer Landskirty 16:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I understand what you're saying about Microsoft, but that is not the point. It is the choice of others. Even if you think Microsoft is "sh*t" others may not, and there is much proof people do not, because Microsoft is so successful! lol. (I prefer a Mac myself) We do not dictate to others what software, browser, etc to anyone. That is not what Wikipedia is about. Maybe it doesn't happen on slower computers using a browser other than IE, but again, that is not the issue. Anyone and everyone, using whatever they choose, should be able to view the pages on Wikipedia without frustrating them, by having their browser hang, or mouse go crazy. There is a reason Wikipedia suggests that pages be kept to a certain size, and that is so anyone from any computer, device, software and browser, can easily access the articles. Thanks for responding. :) - Jeeny Talk 16:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Hm... I just repeat, that it is not Wikipedia's task to work around bugs in certain browsers... Maybe u forgot to install some service pack??? Or to update ur browser? At least I dont see, why I shouldnt be able to see that tree, just because MS's IE doesnt like to present it in an acceptable way... U sound like somebody who complains, that his Z3 or his slide rule is unable to present that page fast enough... So I would strenuously recommend, that u update ur obviously misinstalled box and stop ur DoS... :-) --Homer Landskirty 16:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I think you are misunderstanding the point I'm trying to present. My computer is updated and has all the service packs. I "complain" because I am concerned and sensitive to others that may not be as fortunate, and that so they have access to Wikipedia, no matter what hardware, software, etc they have and use. I don't understand why you accuse me of using DoS as I do not know how, and would not want to know how, as that would be malicious, and would never consider such a thing. :) - Jeeny Talk 16:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
because u removed the template from many articles, which is unnecessary and too much work... If u think, that template is a threat (which it isnt), u should change the template itself and not the pages, that use it... Maybe u can find help here: WP:Questions or Help:Contents or so? --Homer Landskirty 16:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I'll think of something. I don't know what, though. But will think about it more, and comment or act later when I have time to devote to this. As of now, though, those templates really are not necessary to the articles. Even though they are interesting and can add interest to many articles. Right now, it's best to leave them out. Oh, and I'll take your advice about commenting them out instead of removing them completely ... until something changes. Thanks. - Jeeny Talk 17:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I do not believe the template is a "threat" but that it is frustrating to access the pages that have it. Not that its doing something to my computer. It's frustrating not to have control of the browser, and/or the mouse. I can only imagine when someone has less "sophisticated" equipment and software, and tries to access the article. They would miss a lot of education. Understand? Thanks - Jeeny Talk 17:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
not a word... u just keep repeating strange bug reports, that u should direct to ur computer/OS vendor but not to wikipedia(ans)... Cheers... --Homer Landskirty 17:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I'm not making myself clear. There IS a bug in the template, one that affects IE specifically. LOTS of people use IE. That's the point. Not my computer. The template should work on all browsers, OS, and computers! Cheers. - Jeeny Talk 17:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
There is no IE specific code in the template... BYE! ;-) --Homer Landskirty 17:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

This template has been nominated for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 June 4#Template:Kennedyfamilytree if you'd like to comment. Mike Dillon 15:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Yup. I just saw it... And I will... :) --Homer Landskirty 15:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937

Thanks for your message. I believe you are right on this as a policy issue but in my opinion it isn't worth edit-warring over. Anyway, I think I've solved the problem now. --John 01:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Good idea... Thx. --Homer Landskirty 07:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

I think it's a good idea to only use one image but does that image have to be b*tt ugly? Seriously, isn't there a better image available? Besides, I think it's better to show the city's location in Europe. --Krm500 12:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

U r right somehow... I think it is the unusual projection... We could use that CIA World Fact Book image, if we would know the coordinates... :-)) Position in europe like this: Image:Location Sweden EU Europe.png? --Homer Landskirty 14:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Would u like this one better: Image:Sweden-locator.png? --Homer Landskirty 14:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Now I know, why the map, that is used by the template, looks to different... It is indeed the projection (equi rectangular, so that we can just think that every pixel has the same amount of fractions of a degree, which is quite useful, because we r so near at a pole)... --Homer Landskirty
Sorry if I came on a bit aggressive. But I don't like the map since it has a weird projection and is limited to Sweden. Major cities should, imo, be shown where in Europe or Scandinavia they are. I agree that it's much better to use one image for all articles but this one is not the right one. --Krm500 22:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
OK... Could u tolerate the projection, if the map would show a bigger part of europe and some big cities? How big should the map be? --Homer Landskirty 08:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Germany Invitation

Hello, Homer Landskirty! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 00:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ryke Geerd Hamer

Scientology entry in "see also" section indeed had got dropped, sorry it was not intentional and I can only assume I lost it in a cut&paste when reordering the sections about. Indeed seems a reasonable "see also" extension :-) David Ruben Talk 19:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

no prob... thx... --Homer Landskirty (talk) 09:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Third Opinion

Hi Homer, I saw the dispute posting regarding the Bashkirian Airlines crash on Third Opinion. I have posted my opinion on the [talk page]. I noticed that you and Averell were both extremely civil and I wanted to take the time to commend you on that point. Regards, Lazulilasher (talk) 16:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)