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[edit] Legality of abandonware

I'm removing the following sentence:

This is nevertheless controversial, as some parties allege that all manner of abandonware is illegal.

First, this is incorrect. It is a well-established fact that abandonware is illegal. It was always part of the code of honor of abandonware webmasters not to pretend otherwise. Second, any discussion about the legality of abandonware should be in the abandonware article, not here. — Graf Bobby 09:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] activity of the site

Perhaps it is a problem on my end, but all attempts to access anything other than the main page result in a blank web page. Anyone else seen this? 24.58.114.90 02:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've managed to browse through the site for various games, and even download manuals and 'extras' but any attempt to download a game does not result in a 'anti-bot verification' page, but just a perpetually loading page with just the 'interface' buttons around the main frame. I'll check the forums to see if anything is up with Sarinee... Empath 23:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Well. In going back to the still loading tab I had on HotU - to link over to the forums - I found the 'type in this code to prove you're not a bot' information present, but a couple small ads not yet loaded. It may just be a matter of the servers running slowly - do you still have the 'page loading' activity showing on your browser? It may just be overloaded and need longer to bring the page up. Otherwise, you might want to check the discussion that occurred on the talk:HotU archive page here[1] - there's plenty of 'tweaks' that may help... Empath 23:42, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Hotu

Template:Hotu has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — GarrettTalk 09:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A minor suggestion...

Can you ban all the IPs belonging to ESA/IDSA from editing ANY pages? What they do is nothing short of vandalism. Next time you'll see them chewing up whole entries, replacing them with "PUBLICATION FORBIDDEN UNDER YET ANOTHER NAZI DIGITAL COPYRIGHT ACT, SEE YOU IN COURT". Same goes for RIAA and MPAA. Thank you. --A Concerned User 195.164.48.92 08:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be easier to simply assign the article semi-protected status? Or are you volunteering to do all the work? Bwanderson 03:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Inevitably, Wikipedia will be edited by people and organizations with an agenda. It is in their interest for information that affects their business negatively to disappear rapidly, regardless if it is true (or more importantly for the Wikipedia mission, notable). If you are concerned, add this page to a watch list and revert / keep the article NPOV as much as possible. JubalHarshaw 03:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HotU Redirect?

A request for an article at HotU returns a redirect to this page. This is not a huge problem by itself, since the NwN expansion is documented as being a possibility. However, the page Hotu serves as a disambiguation page for the acrynom, including nothing further then Home of the Underdogs and Hordes of the Underdark. The problem that I see is this: either the term HotU is used for Home of the Underdogs more often (enough to merit both HotU and Hotu redirecting here with the NwN expansion listed as it is now), or the term HotU is used for both equally and should link to disambiguation.

The Bioware site itself uses HotU as an acronym in the forums for game owners (to be completely accurate, it uses NwN:HotU), so I believe both terms are used equally. Admissibly, a "google test" shows Home of the Underdogs first, but NwN is a close second. (Not counting the FS2 entry at Home of the Underdogs which for some reason is listed as a separate site). It is very clear to me that neither Home of the Underdogs nor Hordes of the Underdark use the term Hotu as often as the term HotU. Therefore, I do not think it is fair to say that one should direct one place (one of the articles or a disambig) while the other should go elsewhere. Dylan 21:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you need to even ask on the talk page, to change one of the acronym redirects if its something you've obviously put that much logical thought into, but my feeling is that if you give it a few years, very few people will be searching for 'hordes of the underdark' (especially in acronym form), while people will still be using (or at least talking about) home of the underdogs. Miscreant 00:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)