User talk:Holmwood

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I mostly post on Canadian stuff and North American/Anglosphere right-wing politics.

Below you can see a sad example of me messing up Zell Miller (after working hard on the entry for some months!)

[edit] Zell Miller

Thanks for your contributions (and deletions) to Zell Miller. However one of those deletions went too far. You deleted almost the entire article! I've restored it, but whatever you were trying to accomplish in that edit will need to be redone. Also, comments, even those about the NPOV tag, should go onto the talk page and not be placed in the article. Thanks, -Willmcw 02:55, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

If I deleted most of the article I messed up and I apologize. Checking. The NPOV tag, understood, though please understand after I had posted on it in discussion someone went, ignoring discussion, and made huge changes. Holmwood 08:33, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Added: Confirmed-- I messed up exactly as you outlined Willmcw. I respectfully disagree with you on the comments on the NPOV tag, but I'm not going to push that til I've 500-1000 successful well regarded edits under my belt unlike this bungled one.

Sad to get my first message from others due to a horrible bungle. Willmcw was very kind though. Holmwood 08:56, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Not to worry. I've inadvertently blanked sections before too. We all profit by checking each other's work. Cheers, -Willmcw 09:07, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Condi Rice

My edit on Condi Rice's article was written in language that showed it could not be cited. I said that her former colleagues "purportedly claim" that she is a lesbian. If I had evidence that they claimed this, I would cite it and removed the word "purported." However, no evidence exist. Stanford professors have told their students this information (which I learned on my most recent visit to Stanford, where I am going to attend), but they have not told any public media out of respect for her privacy. As such, saying they "purportedly claim" this is the truth. I'm not saying they definitely claim she is a lesbian (hence purported) or that, even if they did claim she was a lesbian, that that would necessarily be true. But the statement, as I made it, is true. Stanford students have attested to their professors' claiming this, and thus these professors have "purportedly claimed" she was a lesbian.

elitistnerd

I hope you see the problem with this. People made the same claims about Hillary Clinton, and one of them was even willing to be cited. Ed Klein wrote a scurrilous book that cited them. Who knows what the motivations of those professors are, who knows if what they are saying is true or merely what they think might be true, or even something they know to be false. In general, it's simply not responsible to put up anonymous speculation in an encyclopedia entry. I could modify Hillary Clinton's entry to truthfully say "New York Times best-selling author Klein cited people who claimed Hillary Clinton was a lesbian and that Bill Clinton raped her". Do you seriously think this would be a responsible edit for me to make though? It would be true, but irresponsible. Holmwood 06:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

There's a difference. One is an academically-respected friend of Condi's with no possible financial interests involved, while the other is a unrespected profit-seeking author who (I assume) does not know Hillary at all. elitistnerd

How is it known that he or she is a friend? Realistically, a friend that respected another friend's privacy wouldn't be gossiping about things like that to students. Either the "friend" has poor judgement, isn't a friend, is speculating, or is lying. In the case of Klein, he has his reputation to consider as did the person who called Hillary a lesbian. The case for Clinton being describable as a lesbian is actually considerably stronger. And sadly, money is a fairly modest motive for this kind of thing. Look at the ridiculous accusations that fly about the blogosphere with no money behind them at all. Holmwood 13:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are you from Ottawa?

Hi,

I am Juliet Bravo. You wrote an article about the Rideau Club. I was just wondering if you were a resident of Ottawa?

Yes, I am. Are you as well? Holmwood 18:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Holmwood,

Yeah, I was. I lived in Sandy Hill (next to the University of Ottawa) from 1999 to 2003. Did you grow up there?

Also, I've been to the Rideau Club...pretty swanky.

JB