Talk:Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development

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[edit] The post against Steve Emerson

Putting a citation as, "(CBS News, 4/19/95)" is not a proper citation..... Link it to an article or video clip saying that. Also, the statement, "It should be noted that Emerson has displayed a consistent anti-Muslim bias in his reporting and his credibility has been called into question on several occasions." has no citation or reference at all...... The stuff this guy posted is like me saying that Bill Gate's favorite ice cream is chocolate chip cookie dough. (ABC News, 8/4/92) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brisbanerobi (talk • contribs) 22:41, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infocom

WHAT ties are there between Holy Land and Infocom? WhisperToMe 20:22, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Some are at this link: [1], and the article now contains some of them. You can find more with Google searches with the names of both organizations, perhaps also restricting the search to "site:.gov". (SEWilco 04:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Terrorist Organization

It seems to me that the first sentence or paragraph of this article should make the point that the HLF is a terrorist organization rather than some sort of a charity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.195.25 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 31 January 2006

Done. You could have edited it. (SEWilco 05:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Islamic Association for Palestine

I would like to see some proof that Holy Land Foundation "is a daughter organization of Islamic Association for Palestine." I don't think this is correct. It is also quite inflammatory, as exemplified by the comment above about HLF being a "terrorist organization." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.72.52 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 1 May 2006

As you think association with the IAP is inflammatory, you must think there is something wrong with the IAP. The HLF has been specifically designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. government, so was the preceding comment inflamed by the IAP? (SEWilco 05:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Rewrite Needed

This article is poorly written--needs complete rewrite to be brought up to date. Read this new article, the first published abt. HLF in many months: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-holy18jun18,1,2606858.story —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.3.119 (talk • contribs) 02:47, 20 June 2006

[edit] Justice Dept 2004

The Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development

Update:

July 27, 2004- The U.S. Justice Department handed down a 42-count indictment against the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, an organization long suspected of supporting terrorists by funneling money to Hamas. The federal indictment named the Foundation and its top leaders in a conspiracy to provide aid to a terrorist organization and the families of suicide terrorists. ... (copyrighted material removed October 18, 2006) ... Hit this site to get details of indictment: http://www.adl.org/israel/holyland.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.107.34.118 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 21 July 2006

[edit] Last call on tags

I'm going to take the tags off in a few days if there is not discusion on this talk page as to specifically what the problems are.Hypnosadist 23:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I took the tags off while you were making that comment. There are more sources given now. (SEWilco 05:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Copyright violation

A couple of paragraphs from a newspaper article were inserted in December 2006, so I'm reverting to the last non-copyright violating version. Andjam 22:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unexplained deletion

A paragraph got deleted without an explanation. Why was it deleted? Andjam 16:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two different trials

of HLF and some of its personnel. One in 2004 and one underway now (August 2007). The article should clarify this.

LDH 05:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

One other note. The edit that alleges gross errors by the FBI came from this IP

76.185.197.198

and that IP is in Herndon, Virginia. :D

LDH 05:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistrial?

Didn't I read that the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation ended in a mistrial? There's this and this from the Dallas Morning News.

Surprised no one updated this article. -- 75.143.96.101 05:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. It's buried near the end of the second section, but it's in there. -- 75.143.96.101 05:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Holy land foundation.gif

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[edit] Dead links, NPOV, etc

The links to the "experts" questioning the validity of the case are dead, not to mention the section gives the article a good-sized amount of one-sided material. Therefore, I have removed it. The second problem is in the External links. Several of the links all revert back to HLF website/blog. One should be sufficient.98.212.227.161 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The link to the LATimes article isn't "dead", it is just moved to the site archive. It was published in the print edition of a very respected newspaper, so is a fine reliable source. Also the direct quotes from experts do seem valuable. I do agree that the amount quoted does tend to unbalance, but trim and rephrase, don't just cut it out wholesale, along with the excellent source. Sources are very important. --GRuban (talk) 14:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)