Talk:Hollywood Babylon
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I removed the plagiarism comment, which itself was cut and pasted straight from an Amazon.com User Comment about Hollywood Babylon. I've done some (minor) searching, and cannot find any critical commentary (aside from that Amazon comment) that accuses Anger of plagerism. I certainly could be wrong, but at most I think this deserves not much more than a minor mention. However, I would love to see someone flesh out the Hollywood Babylon entry overall. Piltdown 20:31, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
The reason they are the same is that they are both by me. If you want further information check my website:
Plagiarism section restored. Again.
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Well, ok. But still - this deserves not much more than a brief reference, lower in the HB entry. Not full cut and paste excerpts of possible (and very minor) plagiarism that you tout on your personal website. Additionally, you are referring to a different book (HB II). I've added "plagiarism" to the list of things that Anger has been criticized for. And i've also added a link to your website at the bottom of the entry. I've taken out your HBII/Unsolved Mysteries cut and paste comparisons, which I don't think really belong here, at least in this form. Again -- this book has pretty hefty cultural significance--- i'd love to see the entry expanded overall.
First, I don't think plagiarism is minor, especially in a book which, as you say, has become such an underground icon. That kind of "borrowing" in an academic book would spell disaster. I suppose it's "business as usual" in the area of "true" crime.
The fact is that much of "Hollywood Babylon" is lifted from the 1969 Austin book: William Desmond Taylor, Fatty Arbuckle, Carol Landis, Thelma Todd, Lupe Velez, Marilyn Monroe, Thomas Ince, they're here. I didn't have the time to address all of these areas. But you raise a good point, so I've obtained the 1965 edition of HB, which I'm told varies tremendously from the more current editions. It'll be interesting to see what K.A. was up to. He knocked off the Black Dahlia in HBII. I can't find anyone who has an edition of the reputed 1950s French edition and wonder if it even exists. But I'm quite a skeptic.
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- Navarro died much later than the first publication. Pls correct. <eg>
[edit] Amplification of the description of Busby Berkeley's "drunk driving incident"
I have amplified the original description of the event as "a drunk driving incident" as the incident was obviously far more serious than such a bland description would indicate.Hi There 02:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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