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[edit] Jordan mills (?) and Stamp Mills

What is a "Jordan?" For what functions did it replace the Hollander Beater? And how do we reconcile wikipedia's own page on stamp mills, which describes a "pounding" process, with the assertions of this "Clapp," who says that the stamp mills used wooden paddles? I wrote the original stub, but I confess, I'm not an expert on this subject, and now I'm confused. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Carolfrog 08:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I wrote a paper on acidity in paper and its implications on conservation for a Masters' class in library science. That's where I read Clapp, and got the other stuff. So, I don't know what a Jordan is, yet.  :-) I put that in because the original stub had negatives attributed to stamp mills and were not actually true about stamp mills. Instead, they were negatives of Jordan mills. So, I was trying to differientiate between the two. I'm recovering from a surgery. I do plan, in the future, to figure out what a Jordan is and help this stub. RE: Wooden paddles -- I think the "wodden paddles" "pound", or slap up and down, on the pulp. So I don't think the two are contradictory. I have a friend who worked in the paper industry. Maybe I can get some pictures from him and clear this up. I'll also see if I can order a book regarding this history, read it, and clear up some more. (BTW -- If you haven't read the Clapp article/book, its REALLY good. If you can't get a hold of it, email me.) --ktoonen 22:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

The only copy of the Clapp book that I can find is currently twenty bucks(!) on Amazon. I'll have to decide if that's worth it to me.  :) Also, I'd like to do some further research beyond even that book. I'd like to expand this article further. Thanks for your input. Let's keep talking. Carolfrog 00:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)