Talk:Holes (novel)
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Can you write an alternative ending?
This article in general needs more about the book besides a summary and awards. Ideas, interps, history, the toad conspiracy.... generally more stuff.
- That's why we're an encyclopedia that anyone can edit the contents of our pages - if there's an article you're not happy with, change it! All you have to is click the "Edit this page" button at the top on one f the four tabs and then log in or create an account and then you are free to edit the article itself. If you need any help, drop me a line on my talk page. Cheers, Redvers ★ Hello ★ Doings 19:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Do you think we need to add the soundtrack?
I think we need to make a page or section for the *soundtrack. Thief Lord 01:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC) ¥èá!!! *please note there is no soundtrack for 'Holes' by Lois Sachar
[edit] Onion blood versus juice
I think what the orginial text is saying is that the yellow spotted lizards don't like your blood once you've been onion flavored (via the onion juice) so they won't bite you if you are onion-flavored. No one is making the claim that the onions have blood, per se. no, it means that the yellow spotted lizards can smell the onion juice (sploosh) inside you, no contaminated blood because onion juice can not access your blood just by eating it, you would have to inject it directly in.
Atlant 00:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Movie Stars
Who are those people starring in the movie? I just watched the movie for around the eighth time, and Sigourney Weaver or somethi9ng like that, and Jon Voight are only secondary characters. The main characters are the person who played Hector zeroni, and Shia LeBouf who plays Stanley Yelnats. Weaver only plays the warden of the camp, who is only featured in a few parts of the film, and Voight plays one of the 'Counselors' at camp, who could barely even be considered a secondary character! I mean, there's only one small insight into either of their pasts, which is one small clip near the end for the warden's, and little to nothing is known about the Counselor, apart from the fact he's violating parole.i think this is about a guy that is cursed n is the one that is mistaken to steal shoes by a famous baseball player
the reason why they are scondary characters is not because of their apperance in the film but of what the're characters cause to happen in the film. if you think about it then the councelor, mr Pendanski, caused Zero to run away because he kept on mocking him and the Warden caused the whole camp to dig all those terrible holes didn't she! seriously, if your going to critisice it at least think about what you're talking about, i think that it's quite clear that you don't have a very good mark in your english GCSE and i'm only 13.that's low beingput down by a 13 year old you know.
[edit] Plot creep
As the months have passed, I've noticed that different people keep adding more and more information from the book into the plot summary section. I submit that the summary is quite long already. Surely all the important points of the plot are already covered, so I request that new information not be added unless there's some good reason for it.
On a related note, is it really necessary to list every single award the book has gotten? Eric119 02:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
eric your grammar is wrong. at the end of your complaint you should have put recieved, not gotten because as it is not even a word.
- Speaking to your second question, I'd say "Yes". This is another book that tends to turn up on "banned book lists" so listing it's awards is a nice counterweight.
- Atlant 12:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I absolutely 100% agree with regard to the plot summary. In fact, more than just not expanding it, I'd say it needs trimming down. As a point of comparison, the plot summary in the War and Peace article is less than a quarter the length of the one here! --Spondoolicks 14:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well waddyaknow - there's actually a tag just for this kind of thing. --Spondoolicks 16:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- I absolutely 100% agree with regard to the plot summary. In fact, more than just not expanding it, I'd say it needs trimming down. As a point of comparison, the plot summary in the War and Peace article is less than a quarter the length of the one here! --Spondoolicks 14:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
excuse me 'spoodoolicks' but i believe that you should have put 'what do you know' instead of the slang/chav translation waddyaknow. please use the proper english sentences because it does make you look really utterley stupid.
The plot isn't detailed enough, I think we should write more about the boys, and less about the past.
- here here^^^
[edit] Split
The book and movie should be separate articles. Sarah crane 13:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- They already are. Eric119 19:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Song
Should the words to the pig lulaby be added?
No. We aren't obligated to include every detail. Joyous! | Talk 17:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
The one Sarah sung:
If only, if only," the woodpecker sighs
"The bark on the tree was as soft as the skies."
While the wolf waits below, hungry and lonely,
Crying to the moo---ooo--oon,
"If only, If only,"
The one Zero's mum sang:
If only, if only the moon speaks no reply;
Reflecting the sun and all that's gone by.
Be strong my weary wolf, turn around boldly.
Fly high, my baby bird.
My angel, my only.
[edit] Repeat
Half the article was copied and tacked onto the end; I deleted the repeat.
[edit] My recent revert
I just reverted the article all the way back to the edit of 23:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC) by Joyous!, as this was the last good version before a series of vandal edits and incomplete reverts that left the article incomplete & otherwise messed up. Good edits since then, if any, will need to be redone.--ShelfSkewed Talk 01:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Louis sachar holes.gif
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