Talk:Hoboken Terminal

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Category:Commuter railroad terminals in New York City? After all, its located in New Jersey. Maybe there could be a category for NYC metro or something. RustyCale 23:26, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The idea for that category is to include all the commuter terminals that serve people commuting to NYC. In this case, until the Kearny Connection was built, this was the only terminal for the ex-Erie-Lackawanna lines (and still is for some). Other railroads had other terminals; there were at least six in Hudson County at one time. These are no less NYC commuter rail terminals than Flatbush, Jamaica and Long Island City. --SPUI (talk) 03:24, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hudson-Bergen Light Rail inside?

The article says that the HBLR lines "operate from the south end of the terminal concourse." Do they actually enter the building or do passengers have to go outside to board light rail trains? --Jfruh 18:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

None of the lines, not even the New Jersey Transit trains operate within the terminal building. All of the platforms are located outside for all train service, with the PATH train station accessible underground. The description that the HBLR trains "operate from the south end of the terminal concourse" could be reworded, but is fundamentally accurate, as the concourse is a covered area outside of the terminal building. Alansohn 18:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the info ... I guess I was mainly wondering whether there was platform to platform transfer abilities ... a lot of mainline-to-light rail transfers really involve leaving one station and crossing a street or something to enter another (as at 30th St. in Philly). --Jfruh 19:04, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The side of the complex oposite the LIghtRail & Ferry includes a Food Court/Bar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.55.135 (talk) 23:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Renovations

Something probably should be written up about the renovations. I'll try to take a picture of the planned reproduction of the clock tower (on some post on Henderson St.) AND the actual terminal building still includes an unfinished HALL so including info on how that will be renovated would be useful.

[edit] Merge proposal:Hoboken (PATH station) to Hoboken Terminal

I am suggesting that the Hoboken (PATH station) article be merged into this article, as there is no significant notability of that station from this station, as it is in the general complex. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 08:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Notices were placed on both pages suggesting this move. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I support the proposal. The article about the station should discuss all the services that operate there, and PATH is simply one of those services. Marc Shepherd (talk) 13:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Another basis for why this SHOULD be the case, is because the articles Walter Rand Transportation Center and [[Broadway (PATCO station) are the same article, with the latter redirecting to the former, despite the stations being in different locations in the same complex. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I support the merge. Da bomba3 (talk) 22:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
OPPOSE. This Terminal and the PATH terminal are two separate buildings operated by different companies with different historical significance. If we merge these, a valid case could be made to also merge Penn Station with Amtrak or Long Island Railroad or New York City Subway because the situation is similar, and that would be ridiculous. Truthanado (talk) 04:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
A more precisely relevant example would be the 6th Avenue stations of PATH, each of which is part of the general complex of an IND station and thus as deserving of merger as Hoboken. I OPPOSE all such megers, but am open to suggestions as to why all should be merged, or why some should and some shouldn't, neither of which I have seen thus far. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Support for two reasons. firstly, because the same argument could be made regarding the HBLR portion of the terminal, which would be even sillier than this.
The second is because such a merger has been done before, over at the Newark Penn Station article. While the PATH tracks at Newark are more integral to the overall station than they are in Hoboken, the situation is mostly similar.oknazevad (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)