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Given that the names of the three units have been announced, is it likely that they will be named for the first ship (apparently Hobart). Hammersfan 23/01/06, 10.15 GMT

Annoyingly, the press release didn't specify what order the ships would be built in. That the names weren't listed in alphabetical order does suggest that the Hobart will be the leadship, and hence the AWD will be the Hobart Class. --Nick Dowling 10:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Hobart will be the lead ship. (spanker911) More annoyingly, for a resident of the City of Greater Bendigo, the promised HMAS Bendigo (III) appears to have been renamed. It was supposed to be one of the new destroyers, as promised when HMAS Bendigo (II) was being decommissioned. I seem to recall the Chief of Navy telling us all how lucky we were... - (Vainglory) Since Bendigo isn't a state capital, and is not nearly as big as Newcastle or Wollongong, I would be surprised to see a major RAN ship named after it. The Gold Coast has a population approaching half a million and there has never been a HMAS Gold Coast ;-) Grant65 | Talk 15:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC) All the same, I was there, and it was announced. Where does the information about the Spanish design come from? Hammersfan 30/01/06, 15.23 GMT

The DMO website. While the Burke is the 'prefered design' and it looks like all development of AWD will be focused on the Burke design, the Spanish design is still on the cards 'in competition' with the Burke (presumably if the Burke is more expensive/complex then expected it the Spanish ship will be the fall-back). I don't understand it either. --Nick Dowling 06:48, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
May I suggest then that any images of existing ship types be removed, just leaving the CG image, to avoid any confusion. From what I've read on the DMO website, there doesn't seem to be any prospect of a concrete design for around 18 months anyway. We may well end up seeing a kind of Gibbs & Cox/Navantia hybrid at the end of all this Hammersfan 13.11 GMT, 31 January 2006
I think that keeping both images is valid - the AWD is definetly going to be one of the two ships, and will probably be the Burke. --Nick Dowling 10:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
OK, but I've put them into a gallery view - I think it makes the page look a bit neater. Hammersfan 16.20 GMT, 01/02/06
Good idea. --Nick Dowling 07:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

This article is no longer a stub, and as such I have removed the tag. Bobby1011 12:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC) It appears the "Crew" section in the Comparative statistics table is in the wrong order. Shouldn't the F100 be 180 and the Evolved Burke class be 220? tc 58.110.90.56 05:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC) To help clarify: DMO's 2nd pass process involves chosing a ship design between two competing designs the "existing" (or Military Off the Shelf MOTS) design which is the Navantia F100 frigate and the "evolved" design which is the G&C designed AWD. It is not an Arleigh Burke. G&C experience with the burke can lead to a conclusion that the AWD evolved design may be based on a burke, but they will be significantly different. (spanker911)

[edit] "Kinnard selection process"

A what? Anyone? My Google search turned up only this article for that phrase. I think it needs to be reworded and/or linked to relevant article. Grant | Talk 15:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Presumably it's the procurement process recomended by the Kinnaird Review which lead to the formation of the Defence Materiel Organisation. There's a link to a PDF of it on the right of the screen at: http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/about/index.cfm However, I've got no idea what this process actually is and this term needs to be clarified. --Nick Dowling 09:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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I've added a rationale --Nick Dowling 07:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)