Talk:HMS Vanguard (1787)

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Some background on the term "third rate" would be good (in the US, "third rate" is a euphemism for "cheap junk" among other things). - Hephaestos

Heh yeah, I noticed that too when the term went from the middle of an article to a first sentence! Should have one soo^H^H^H"anticipated in February 2003" :-) Stan Shebs 14:48 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)
I disagree. You have to assume some prior knowledge in your readers, as otherwise everything is written at kindergarten level. In this case, "first-rate," "second-rate," etc., are standard technical terms for characterizing ships of the era. PKKloeppel (talk) 13:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)