Talk:HMS Lutine (1779)

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Recently, I bought a book on the flea-market about the Lutine, the treasure and all that. It contains some very interesting stuff about lost dutch crown jewels, some salvaged money and the reasons why the ship herself was never salvaged although an awfull lot of money was on board (or was it??? wink, wink). I hope I can make a huge article about the Lutine with the book's material. But of course, all depends on my spare time.

Contents 1 Russian participation in the 1799 campaign against the French in the Batavian Republic 2 Altering the heading 3 The coordinates 4 Spelling 5 Subrogation 6 Lloyd's Yacht Club

[edit] Russian participation in the 1799 campaign against the French in the Batavian Republic

Someone has changed the Russians into Prussians. Was there a reason for this? See June 22 here or "the British-Russian invasion of 1799", here (RJP 19:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC))

I think that it was probably me, in error; see: French Revolutionary Wars: Campaigns of 1799. The reference to the Russians or Prussians is unhelpful; the loss (1799) occurred during the Second Coalition of the French Revolutionary Wars, and this should (I suggest) be the context used to describe the loss (which is what I have done). --Major Bonkers 12:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Altering the heading

I have bought a copy of 'The Lutine Tresure', which appears to be the major reference work on this wreck, and am busy working my way through this article, replacing and correcting as necessary. One thing that I cannot do is alter the title, which gives an incorrect date for the the laying down of the vessel (1785 instead of 1779). Can anyone help?! --Major Bonkers 12:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Worked it out - you use the 'Move' page. --Major Bonkers 10:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The coordinates

These coordinates are plainly wrong, these coordinates list a place in the British mainland, far away from the Netherlands.

I think someone made a mistake in entering the number of degrees of easting. By putting 5 instead of 0, I have placed the position somewhere near the right spot but how accurate it is I don't know. (RJP 11:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC))

My mistake. The co-ordinates were taken from 'The Lutine Treasure' and, on checking, refer to the Amsterdam meridian as opposed to the Greenwich meridian. Well noticed and thank you for the correction. Incidentally, if you know how to link the position reference, as in certain other Wikipedia articles, please do so! --Major Bonkers 11:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

I 'corrected' the spelling in the title of Van der Molen's book, then saw that it was consistently 'wrong'. Is 'tresure' someone's local spelling and used in the title of the book? If so, I'll undo my 'correction'. (RJP 11:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC))

I suspect some naughty person has been 'correcting' my faultless prose. thank you for changing it.--Major Bonkers 13:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subrogation

Surely the rights of the Lloyd's underwriters to the gold onboard is down to abandonment (and subsequent salvage) in the event of a total loss not subrogation? I think subrogation is misused here, because the underwriters are not entitled to pursue settlement from a negligent third party in the case of a shipwreck...Littlebex 17:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Should have spotted it myself.--Major Bonkers 12:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lloyd's Yacht Club

Is there at the moment a yacht called Lutine? 91.106.47.46 (talk) 10:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)