Talk:HMS Captain (1869)

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I saw it on NGC TV that the Captain wreck has been visited and filmes so one could possibly dig up some images for the article?

Those images are likely copyrighted and so not desirable, but there are a couple well-known images of the ship afloat, which would be PD. Google turns up a poor-quality scan of an etching at [1], and a photo at [2]. Stan 12:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Impossible Statement

I have deleted the following:

and when Coles proposed a masted, ten turret vessel in 1859, the Chief Constructor of the Navy, Sir Edward Reed, objected.^[1] Both men lobbied fiercely both politicians and the press, Coles to get his ship constructed, and Reed to stop Coles.

The reasons for deleting it are:

• The statement about Coles proposing a masted, ten turret vessel in 1859 may be correct, but is in the wrong part of the story. Blackwood's magazine had an article on ironclads in 1859 or 1860 which discussed something similar.

• Reed did not get the job as chief constructor until 1863.

• The stuff about lobbying seems unfair to Reed. It was the turret ship enthusiasts who lobbied hard for Captain. If both parties were lobbying equally, let us see some contemporary citations.

--Toddy1 16:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Very nice. Now in the article there suddenly pops up a certain Reed who says this and that. That's unfair to the reader. --84.161.189.197 (talk) 01:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of 2nd Impossible Statement

I have deleted the following:

Following the sinking, both Reed and Robinson resigned from their positions.

• Edward James Reed resigned in July 1870. (Source: http://www.hmscaptain.co.uk/Characters/edwardreed.htm)
• HMS Captain sank on the night of 6/7 September 1870 (i.e. two months later). (Source: http://www.hmscaptain.co.uk/The%20Story/final%20trial.htm)
• Robinson was "Controller of the navy (until Gladstone decided, in the light of the loss of the Captain, for which he was quite unfairly blamed by Childers - that the appointment would not be extended at the end of his second five-year term)" (Source: http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowBiog.php?id=112)

--Toddy1 (talk) 19:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)