Talk:Hitoshi Doi

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Contents 1 Photo 2 "I Liek Milk" 3 How is he notable? 4 Tags

[edit] Photo

I have no idea how to get the rights to use the photo I just added. I'm also aware it'll get deleted if I don't figure it out. :P Do we email him? And if that works, how do we prove that we have his permission? --Masamage 18:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You can always email him. His email address is right at the top of his site. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll do that, then. But how does everyone know I'm telling the truth about his response? :) --Masamage 20:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

PS: Email has been sent. --Masamage 20:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If you got him to include a note on his site saying it was fine to use that pic for this article, that would likely work. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 23:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "I Liek Milk"

I just removed the following from the article:

In 2001, Hitoshi gained additional fame through the "I Liek Milk" parody site, itself a parody of the site of internet celebrity Mahir Çağrı, portraying Hitoshi as an English challenged otaku with a milk fetish.

I did so because I'm not convinced that this website is at all notable, and because it casts Hitoshi-san in a bad light for no real reason. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. If you read the above Talk page division, you might note that we just emailed Hitoshi and invited him to look at the article and give or deny permission to use his photo. This is an inappropriate time to be linking to irrelevant and insulting websites. --Masamage 23:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How is he notable?

Please provide some evidence that Hitoshi Doi is notable. I don't see how the article fufills notability requirements or how it can be anything more than a stub. And why is he mid-level importance to Japan-related article on wikipedia? --Kunzite 02:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on either Doi or the notability rules, and I understand google hits aren't the perfect measuring stick, but he gets 372,000. Many of those are people using him as a reference in their anime pages, using seiyuu photos he took, or providing a link to him along with statements like, "If you haven't heard of Hitoshi Doi then you need to crawl back into the bathroom and finish getting over your drunken stooper[sic][1]." Obviously that's one person's (rather agressive) opinion, but it's indicative of the kind of influence he has on the anime web community. I have no idea how to match that up with a specific WP:N rule, but he does seem notable to me. I think it's entirely likely that someone may find his name somewhere, out of context, and look here to figure out who he is. --Masamage 04:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tags

I tagged this article as needing clean and for being confusing because it is unclear as to whether the article is about the man named Hitoshi Doi, or his website. I tagged it for clean up because it has two sections with only one sentence each. Seems to be unnecessary to even have sections right now with so little content. The image also needs to go as it was stolen from his website (and has been tagged for deletion). An infobox is needed. Collectonian (talk) 21:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

For the image, please talk to Masamage (he's posted above), as he was involved in getting the image permissions. For the other information, feel free to edit the article to remove the one-sentence sections (or at least mark them as needing expansion, which would likely be more useful than outright deletion). The article is about Doi and his website (since that's where a majority of his notability comes from as creator of that site). As for the tag removal, they were removed because the onus is on the placer of the tags to explain why they are being placed. As no such explanation was given, the tags were removed. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, from my understanding, an image that is uploaded "by permission for use only on Wikipedia" is not considered acceptable, particularly of a living person. When I tried to upload an image like that, it was immediately tagged for CSD before I even finished uploading it :P I think the only way it would be keepable is if Doi put something on his site saying it was public domain. I would have thought his notability first came from his baseball career, particularly when he seems to have won several awards. I will attempt to clean up the article. Collectonian (talk) 21:52, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The image can be also licensed under Creative Commons, which allows some rights to remain with the original photographer. I'm in direct contact with Doi, and will let you know what I find out. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 22:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm a girl. X) And yes, his exact wording was something like "you can use it", so we'll need to email him again to make sure that's the general "you" and not the specific. --Masamage ♫ 23:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)