Template talk:History of Vietnam

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[edit] Prehistory

An anonymous user keeps making unnecessary additions this template. The period before history was written down, by definition, is "prehistory" and does not belong in "history". The Hong Bang section barely fits the description of "history" because there is no evidence of it. DHN 02:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

  • To the anonymous user who wants this page unprotected. Please discuss here and state your reasons for making the changes that you made. DHN 01:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Agreed, anything prior to Hong Bang Dynasty should be included in a Prehistoric Southeast Asia article. Yellowtailshark 08:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trần Dynasty

I need someone to change "Later Trần Dynasty" to "Posterior Trần Dynasty". I just finish the page "Talk:Vietnam during the Great War", unfortunately it's a talk page, can you make it become an official article, because I can't log in. 66.53.218.105

Done. DHN 05:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you but: what's about my second request? 66.53.218.105

Already done. DHN 06:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese Domination / Northern Dependency

Thank again! And I want change something may be not important, I want to use the name "Union of Indochina" instead of "French Indochina", even though they're the same. Also, the Vietnamese word "Bắc thuộc" in the dictionary, it really means "Northern dependency" or "Northern domination", and sometime it is also translated as "Period of domination by Northern invaders". So, may you change all 4 period of "Chinese domination" become "Northern dependency" or "Northern domination", ex. "First Northern domination". I tell you my idea, I don't want to use any name from foreign countries in this Vietnamese template. 66.53.218.105

"Northern domination" might be understandable in Vietnamese context, but in English the reader might not know who the "northerners" are. Saying "Northern domination" is also not neutral, since it's clearly in the POV of the Vietnamese. Saying "Chinese domination" makes it perfectly clear who the invaders are and does not use anyone's POV. DHN 04:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Union of Indochina; World War I

I would like to change the name "French Indochina" to "Union of Indochina" and add Great War (1914 - 1918) into the template. 66.53.218.105 05:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You have to rename that page first. Standard Wikipedia practice links directly, not to redirects. As discussed ad naseum in the Vietnamese Wikipedia, the two world wars have limited effect in Vietnam and are not considered periods in Vietnamese history by mainstream historians. DHN 06:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Wrong! Then "Lady Triệu's Rebellion and Mai Hắc Đế are also not periods but events. But I can tell you real reason why I want to add 2 world wars. 66.53.218.105

[edit] "Trung Queen"

It is a name that is unsupported by literature (in particular, nothing in the Trung Sisters article itself suggested the use of "Trung Queen" is accepted). --Nlu (talk) 06:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About the Trieu dynasty

Can we all please stop pretending that everyone believes that the Trieu dynsaty was a period of Chinese domination? The template as it stands does not reflect reality. There are still history books out there that list the Trieu dynasty as a Vietnamese dynasty. So would be all right to fix the template to reflect this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.145.175 (talk) 10:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)