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[edit] refrences

"As early as 1372, Basque ships were crossing almost to the other side of the North Atlantic to whale on the Grand Banks near Newfoundland." This is a very bold statement, hence it needs some refrences. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.240.58.186 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Museums

Just added a stub about the Butler Point Whaling Museum in New Zealand - which is fairly small print, but was surprised to see no apparent reference to any museums or artefacts here - the Charles W. Morgan springs to mind - should there be some? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Winstonwolfe (talk • contribs).

[edit] History

I rewrote the majority of the History of Whaling prior to the modern era. In time, I hope to add to it. -Jonas Poole —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonas Poole (talk • contribs).

[edit] Revisions

The Pacific Arctic fishery is now part of the Yankee whale fishery, that's why it was deleted. Also, the claim the Arctic fleet "became the largest in the world in the 1870s" isn't entirely accurate, as Yankee whaling was then in decline. If it was so, it was only by default. Also, the rorqual fishery was deleted because it was inaccurate.-Jonas Poole —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.68.248.69 (talk • contribs).

The Pacific Arctic Fishery should be removed because, (1) American whalers did not shift from the Davis Strait and Greenland whaling grounds to the Bering Strait region, (2) the American Arctic fleet did not become the largest in the world in the 1870s as it was in decline and the Arctic fleet had been larger than other fleets several decades prior to that time, and (3) the Bering Strait region is included in the Yankee whale fishery, and is no longer needed as a separate section. The Rorqual fishery should be deleted because, (1) rorquals were hunted by the Japanese prior to the late 19th century, and (2) Foyn's Spes et Fides first sailed in 1864, not 1865. I believe Foyn didn't even kill any whales that season. Jonas Poole 02:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basque Fishery

"In Terranova they hunted bowheads and right whales" It is unclear in this statement what whales are being spoken of, because bowhead are known as the Greenland right whale. I've changed it to "In Terranova they hunted Greenland right whales (bowhead) and North Atlantic right whales"Myrddin y dewydd 22:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted it back to "bowheads and right whales," as it is VERY CLEAR as to what species are being spoken of, as the bowhead WAS known as the Greenland right whale but TODAY is commonly known as the former name while the right whale is already referred to in the beginning of the section, so I don't see how there could be any confusion at all on what species are being spoken of. And its the North Atlantic right whale, not Atlantic Northern right whale as you changed it to. Jonas Poole 23:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pacific Arctic Fishery

This section is now included in the Yankee Whale Fishery, so whoever keeps reverting back to that section needs to stop, as that section has now become redundant. Not only that, but it made false statements about the fishery. Let me say this one more time, the Pacific Arctic fleet did not become the largest fleet in the world in the 1870s, and whalers DID NOT shift from the Davis Strait and Greenland fisheries to the Bering Strait region, that is simply UNTRUE. Jonas Poole 00:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rorqual Fishery

I deleted it because I no longer wanted it there. I wrote it, so I can delete it if I want. Its not like anyone else contributed to that section anyway. Jonas Poole 19:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

When you edit Wikipedia you agree to license your contributions under the GFDL, as it states on every "Editing ___" page. Mgiganteus1 21:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Jonas for the history. I am related to Abel Douglass and have a much more extensive history of his whaling and sealing activities. I will try to add information later. However if you would contact me about the Douglass, Dawson, and Strachen stories with their exact references, I would be appreciative. David Lewis (coyotez@ uoregon.edu) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.76.146.14 (talk) 23:48, 24 July 2007

[edit] Modern Whaling

I'm adding a section on modern whaling to this article, if anyone would like to add photos depicting modern whaling feel free to do so. I'm still pretty new at this, so I could use some help. Any good quality photos will do. Thanks.Jonas Poole 03:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Organization

Why is this article organized by country? I've watched this article (to protect it from vandalism and incorrect good faith edits that spill over from whaling), but I honestly haven't even read it, because I really don't care about country by country narratives of history. I think it would make sense to have this article organized chronologically, with examples from various countries supporting various sections when appropriate. This is just a suggestion; all other editors should feel free to ignore it if you disagree, as I'm not going to be re-organizing the article to suit my tastes. I just ask that you all step back from this page a bit and think about the best way to organize it. Enuja (talk) 03:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Chronological you say? Well, how about reverting it back to the Spitsbergen/Greenland Fishery, Japanese Fishery, Pacific Arctic Fishery (but perhaps with a better sounding title), South Sea Fishery (with a Focus on American/British whaling, and little tidbits about French, Dutch, and German whaling), and keep the Rorqual Fishery the way it is (or perhaps reduce it?), and then go region by region but in chronological order with modern whaling until with reach the pelagic era, when all countries will be treated in the same section. That's how the History of Modern Whaling (1982) goes about the last section, as its difficult to adequately cover each region in one section. Does this sound good to anyone? Gave me time to fix this, as I'm reading and taking notes on several books right now as well as doing various other things. I'll try and fix it as soon as I can. Jonas Poole 01:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Or how about something like this: Basque whaling in the Bay of Biscay (1059-?), Basque whaling in Labrador (1548-1603), Japanese Whaling (1570s-1909), Bay Whaling in Spitsbergen (1611-1657), Whaling in the West Ice (1640-1719), Whaling in the Davis Strait (1719-1912), Whaling in the South Seas (1614-1927), Whaling in the Western Arctic (1848-1921), Rorqual Whaling (1850s-1890s), and Modern Whaling (1864-1982). Perhaps a section in the beginning or as a subsection in each section should describe the mode of pursuing, capturing, and processing whales, as well as their uses? The above dates may be off a little as they're off the top of my head, but how does this arrangement sound? Jonas Poole 01:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)