Talk:History of video game consoles (third generation)

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[edit] Renaming the article

Would anyone be opposed to renaming this "History of video games (Late 8-bit era)" or "Post-crash era", with the pre-crash systems like the 2600 fitting in the "History of video games (Early 8-bit era)" or "Pre-crash era"? --24.114.252.183 17:35, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"History of video games (8-bit era)" would be fine if you did this for all similar pages, but I don't really think its necessary. This page should not be named "Nintendo era" regardless That shows favor to Nintendo in an era when there were other systems including Sega's Master System. Should be renamed "8-bit era" at the very least. K1Bond007 00:03, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
I suggested the longer title because it was the format already in use for 16-bit era and 32-bit era (take a look at them) --24.114.252.183 01:10, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree with the above. For one thing, here (Britain), the term "8-bit era" is often used in connection with computers as well as consoles. That being so, I think the longer title is better. Loganberry 01:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
If there's concensus for a longer title, that also brings up the question of whether it should be extend further into "History of computer and video games (8-bit era)", in order to match the root article History of computer and video games. And then doing the same for the 16 and 32 bit eras and all the other articles. --24.114.252.183 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Who calls this time period the "Nintendo era" or did someone just make this up? does this cover the USA or Japan or Europe or south america? What's the point of this?

8-bit era would perhaps be more accurate. Nintendo fanboyism or ignorance, I don't know. The PC Engine had a fair amount of success in Japan, and the Sega Master System was very popular in Europe and South America during the so-called "Nintendo era". ~ FriedMilk 08:04, 2004 Aug 29 (UTC)
i realise no has replied to this for two years, but still, the nintendo era is actually generations 3 and 4 and can be refered to as such because they dominated the global market durring those two generations. gens 1 and 2 are the atari era and gens 5 and 6 are the sony era. I beileve that Nintendo will dominate the market in gens 7 and 8 with their motion sensory technology, as history show that the most inovative console is always the victor so long as the inovation is in the area of game play, thus making gens 7 and 8 the second nintendo era. Gens 9 and 10 will probably be the Microsoft era as they will most likely incorporate holographic technology from their touchlite into the x-box 4 making it the most inovative. the point being that calling something the ninto era or sony era dosn't show favotatism to that company durring that time it just refers to who sold the most colsole.

[edit] Famicom to 2003?

How can this be right? Andre (talk) 21:31, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

I have no idea. Someone added the Famicom and certain other systems to every gen up to sixth until I and someone else cleaned up some of it up. All of these generation articles need to be cleaned up IMHO. Please note theres an ongoing discussion about the naming of these articles at Wikiproject CVG. K1Bond007 01:07, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What makes a game a franchise?

I don't think some games like Kid Icarus should be on the list, considering they only had 2 titles or so. Otherwise, we would have to include many more game series on the list that only had 1 or 2 games, like Ikari Warriors or Startropics for example.

It does seem a bit overcrowded. I think a franchise would suggest that it still has relevance today, whereas a game followed up by a couple of sequels might not count. - Diceman 15:57, 1 December 2005 (UTC)


Can we add Sweet Home? It's a Capcom survival horror game for Famicom(NES). Some people consider it the first game in the Biohazard/ Resident Evil series.

[edit] Commodore 64 GS?

I don't recognise this console. How does it differ from the normal Commodore 64 that had a keyboard? Garglebutt / (talk) 01:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

It had less connection options, less functionality, S-video, was only availiable in Europe and it's pretty hard to find. For some reason the C64GS doesn't play cart based C64 games without a lot of bugginess. GameJunkieJim 15:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Why did some of the consoles get chopped off? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.244.206.204 (talk) 04:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] NEC PC Engine

This console is wrongly listed as belonging to the "8 bit era", and should be removed. If you follow the link you will see that it is refered to as a "16 bit" console everywhere else

It had 2 Processors, one 16 bit just for graphics, and an 8 bit main processor. It was technically an 8-bit console, but it came out in the 16-bit era, and had 16-bit graphics. GameJunkieJim 15:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Games Computers

Shouldn't 8-bit games computers such as the Commodore 64 and ZX Spectrum be mentioned alongside these consoles, for completeness? Gp100mk 10:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)]

They are not technically consoles, but neither was the Famicom, it evolved into one. The Commodore did that as well, with the Commodore Games System, I think they merit a mention though, since their main purpose was gaming. But it should be noted that they did function nominally as personal computers, and only as a side note. I think the Atari Computer line should also be mentioned. GameJunkieJim 15:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I think they should be mentioned also, but the whole thing is a bit iffy, because they don't really fit the description of video games consoles, in fact they don't really belong in anything properley, they were somewhere between computers and consoles, without those two computers included, there is pretty much no information for what was going on in Europe in the 3rd gen, as they were what Europeans were using to play video games at the time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.243.181 (talk) 01:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Merge the entire group into a single; edited article?

Judging from some of the comments here and on other related pages (and on various pedia-related boards) the separation of the games in this generation system doesn't quite work. Every REGION (not country) has a different way of looking at the releases; in terms of 'generation' there are no comparisons that directly correlate to all regions. Japan is actually on the 8th generation right now, as they started late and then blasted through 5-7 in a matter of two years. Europe could be argued to be in the 5th generation now.

Switching to the x-bit era terms won't work either. The handholds have ALMOST always been a step or two back. The TEP system was a 16-bit portable mixed in with other 4- and 8bit portables in the 16 bit era. And where do we place systems like the TEP (a TG16/PCE with a built in screen and compressed MB) and the Nintendo DS (Nintendo officially calls it a counsel on internal outside of the US). AND..... Depending on how you measure things there are just so many crossovers that it wouldn't be correct that way either.

How could we go about merging all of these 'generations' into a fluent article and ALSO creating a single Electronic Gaming page to cover Counsel systems, Computer Systems primarily used for gaming (C-64, Palm G, Amega), Cell Phone gaming era and table top games as well as Computer games and Arcade games. That could then branch out to other articles that currently exist and could be re-written to better flow into one another. If anyone is willing to take the time to work with me on various options to make changes and add more systems to the listed one (it's missing SO many) please let me/us know what you think.Lostinlodos 03:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Master System more popular than NES in Europe?

This is the first I've ever heard of this, is there any kind of source? I live in Sweden, and I didn't even know the Master System existed at the time. The NES was king, everyone had one (and/or a Commodore 64), Super Mario Bros was the only game people talked about and I never heard of anyone with a Master System. In fact, the first time I became aware of its existance was several years later when I asked someone if the Mega Drive was Sega's first console. --85.89.75.96 (talk) 15:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)