Talk:History of the Church of England
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[edit] "The Church of England" or "The Church in England"?
I am unsure about using the phrase "Church of England" to describe the pre-Reformation Christian church in England. It seems a bit POV to emphasise national politico-religious continuity. From a Roman Catholic viewpoint, "the Church" prior to the Reformation was the RC church, and the "Church of England" was an institution created and established by the Tudors which appropriated the RC church's assets and usurped its function. On a related note, in the statement
- In May 1532 the Church of England agreed to surrender its legislative independence and canon law to the authority of the monarch.
who exactly did the agreeing? Was it the Archbishop of Canterbury? A synod of all bishops? jnestorius(talk) 15:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. This article is written from Anglican point of view. I think having an article on the history of the Church of England encourages this. In my view the best solution would be to merge this article with the one on the history of Christianity in England. Alternatively, the section on the pre-reformation church should be reduced and those that refer to the 18th Century onwards expanded. It is very odd that an article on C of E history explains at some length about Augustine but has nothing on the Oxford Movement or ordination of women. At the least, the controversial nature of this view should be noted in a similar way that this is done in main article on the Church of England. Glow worm64 13:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
The C of E surrendered its legislative independence at the Convocation of Canterbury. There is an article on the Submission of the ClergyGlow worm64 13:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe that the correct title should be "The Church IN England"; this is the usual scholarly usage as evidenced by the the title of Moormans "History of the Church in England". The Church OF England is the church which came into being initially during the reign of Henry VIII and which developed into its present form over the following centuries. As this article speaks of the re-introduction of Christianity into England, it clearly relates to the whole history of the Christian church IN England.--APRCooper 00:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] James, Indulgence and other Matters
James did not attempt to 'reinstate' Catholicism, a form of words that seems to conjure up the spirit of Mary Tudor. His aim was to introduce official indulgence towards both Catholics and Protestant dissenters. It was this that the church opposed.
I've also edited out a perplexing and muddle-headed reference to Charles V 'withdrawing his protection' (from whom?) in 1570. He had been dead for twelve years, and thus beyond protecting, or denying protection, to anyone. Rcpaterson 00:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History
I've added the text that built up at the Anglicanism article. I've tried to roughly make it fit. I know it needs more copy editing. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 06:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- This had been my intention. Thank you. -- SECisek 17:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
