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[edit] Expansion

This article needs to be expanded as the tennis article has better information in its history section than this. --Kzrulzuall ^{Talk• Contribs} 09:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, who compiled this article, but it is quite poor. There is nothing about the pre-Wingfield era, nothind about the roots of modern tennis, or some ball games in the Aztec world, and the medieval or renaissance world see Henry VIII., which had elements of the modern tennis.Then there is a big hole in the development of the game from 1910-1970, with the amateur-pro split, and story of the Davis Cup and so on.The record section of the open era alone gives the false impression, that tennis has only been played since 1968. OK, if you like it, to devote the modern players like Sampras or Federer by citing all kinds of unsignificant records, please do it.But don't forget, that in 30 years from now, these players and records probably will be forgotten, while historically cemented great players like Tilden, who invented the modern game, and Laver, who has the real world record (see Tony Trabert), will still be remembered (german friend 29.4.2007).

• Hi hi hi german friend : guess who answers you. I've just read John Barrett last night and according to him, William Charles Renshaw is the true father of the modern game. Once again I'm grateful to Karoly Mazak for his little story of the 1877-1923 period. Carlo Colussi 13:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an error to day Agassi is the only player to win slam singles titles on 3 surfaces. Connors won the US Open on grass, clay, and hard court. Agassi is the only player to win all four slams on four different surfaces. (The AO is a different surface than the USO) 70.226.27.164 22:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)Bob

• It is always said that there are four different surfaces used for the Slam tournaments but in reality there is less difference between the rebound ace and the decoturf than between the grass used at Kooyong (when the Australian Open was held there) and the grass of Wimbledon. The rebound ace which is going to be left is very similar to the hard surface used at Indian Wells : both are slower than the hard surfaces of Miami and the US Open but not so much. In the 70s the grass at Kooyong was very slow compared to that of Wimbledon (in the XXth century Wimbledon grass was faster than the modern one) : in fact even the decoturf was faster than Kooyong grass. And between Wimbledon grass and Forest Hills grass there was too many differences. The Wimbledon lawns were quasi perfect whereas Forest Hills grass quality was very low with many holes in the court : each time a player moved you could see piece of turf flying because pulled out. Consequently at Forest Hills there were many bad bounces and the only way to win was to play serve and volley game while you could play in the background at Wimbledon though the surface was fast (now Wimbledon surface is slower than before and new material (in particular modern racket strings called "Luxilon" I think (to be checked)) let the players to play behind the service line or the backcourt line).

In conclusion there are officially more surfaces (4) than before though rebound ace and decoturf should be included in the hard surfaces (the number of surfaces is then 3) but in reality the surfaces were as diverse before. From 1975 to 1977 Forest Hills was played on "Har Tru" which wasn't a true clay surface but everybody considered at the time it was almost the same surface as the true clay court of Roland Garros : in our modern times I am sure that the Slams of the 70s would have been considered as played on 4 different surfaces : Melburnian grass, clay, Londonian grass and "har tru". If you look now at the winners of the Australian and the US you will see that many names are the same (and even if you include Wimbledon) whereas the Garros winners are very different from the three other Slam tournaments. Carlo Colussi 13:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I hadn't visited this side for a while, but i can say, the article is much better now than in April 2007, when i first commented. Many of the holes now were filled up, and it is really readable now. (german friend 11.4.2008) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.60.170.0 (talk) 19:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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