Talk:History of education

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[edit] Missing civilizations

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Further information might be found on the talk page or at requests for expansion. (January 2007)

Well before Islam and Greece, there were academic institutions in Mesopatamia. Certainly, teh Persian empire was considered more civilised than the Greek empire at the Greco-Persian wars. Tourskin 23:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Europe: More in depth

I think the history is missing important early milestones, such as the creation of Plato's Academy, and early methods, such as apprenticeship. There was much that happened before the creation of the UniversitṚǍ⅔y of Bolgna that influenced the field. The article seems too short to cover all that happened to change the field of education and doesn't seem to adequately tell the story of how it got to where it is today.

Ideally what this article needs is a section covering education in the classical world (Egypt/Greece/Rome etc), a section on Islam (to go with Europe/China/Japan/India) and then small sub-sections in each section covering the modern history of education in individual countries (1800-2000). 62.25.106.209 12:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accuracy

There's a lot in this article that's just plain wrong...

It's slightly improved now...195.92.40.49 12:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of disciplines

When and how has the notion of different 'disciplines' developed?

Surely we need somethingon the quadravia and trivia, and the demise of the 'Renaissance Man' into lots of experts who know 'everything about nothing'.

Johnbibby 15:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Removal by User:leuko

I started making changes along the following lines - I think it is valid to include sections here on the various disciplines:


- =Subject breakdown= - - ==History of mathematics teaching== - - ==History of statistics teaching== - - *[http://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Teaching-Statistics


- - ==History of XX teaching== - - ==History of XX teaching== - - ==History of XX teaching== - - ==History of XX teaching==

However, this edit was remoevd as "Spam" - which i do not think it was.

What do other people think - is it valid to have History of XX Education

Johnbibby 19:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

It was removed as spam because the only thing it contained was a link to amazon. The rest was removed because "History of XX education" is nonsense. It would be valid to have these sections if they actually included any content. Perhaps some day they could even have their own articles, but just adding empty sections serves no purpose. Leuko 19:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, this is precisely the porpose of a 'stub' section (as this was explicitly labelled). I had started work on the maths section, but I am not qualified to write on all subjects!
Johnbibby 18:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this article really necessary?

I stumbled across while disambiguating a reference. So far, this article appears to be no more than the sum of its individual parts, and I consider that it may be more sensible to develop some of those articles, rather than trying to maintain a generic article on the worldwide "history of education" as distinct from more specific articles on primary, secondary, and tertiary (further and higher) education. --Lang rabbie 22:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Probable plagiarism

The entire section on education in the USA looks like it's copied word for word from this site [1] Note even the section headings are the same! 71.126.174.235 (talk) 17:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, looks like plagiarism - user 24.243.142.167 added the entire section on 1 September 2007, it was that IP's only edit, and its not content from History of education in the United States. I'm going to clear the sections.

Dialectric (talk) 02:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nothing About France?

As I understand it, the history of education is changed through the establishment of a centralized education system in Napoleonic France, with examinations and placement in government. This merit-based system later influenced other nations. Am I wrong? Pittsburgh Poet (talk) 13:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)