Talk:History of Zionism

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Contents 1 redirect to Zionism 2 Copied from 'Zionism' 3 Protocols 4 Revisionist Zionism

[edit] redirect to Zionism

For the time being I redirected this page to Zionism. It was intended from the start that the Zionism article should get a summary of the history of Zionism. However this has not yet happened though and the Zionism article, including the history part, has developed further.

Originally this article was a copy of the Zionism article. This article has only had some spelling corrections and addition to some categories. I added the categories to the Zionism article.

I propose that after somebody has written a summary of the history of Zionism in the Zionism article, this article is revived with the relevant parts from the Zionism article. --JaapBoBo (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copied from 'Zionism'

Since the Zionism article developed further I copied the relevant content from that article here. --JaapBoBo (talk) 23:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protocols

I removed this 'suggestive' text, which in my view should not be in the article:

In December 1929 the Mufti was interviewed by a British commission investigating the source of the riots. Throughout the interview he held a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.^[1]

It suggest that the mufti was anti-semitic, although this is not warrented by the statement in itself. Therefore it is original research (see WP:OR). It is also not NPOV.

I trust that an editor who wants to reinstate it will also put the text below in the article.

Weizmann had called Palestinian Arabs "treacherous", "arrogant", "uneducated", and "greedy" and had complained to the British that the system in Palestine did "not take into account the fact that there is a fundamental qualitative difference between Jew and Arab".^[2]

--JaapBoBo (talk) 23:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

w00t for propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.220.77 (talk) 23:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the two aspects are comparable. The Protocols formed a key part in the justificaiton of the Nazi Genocide and the Mufti played a role in that genocide. He held the book at a publicly recorded meeting and is also credited with producing the first Arabic translation. In comparison Weizmann's comments are private remarks reflecting frustration with the Palestinian Arabs and were not directed against Arabs as a whole. Even if you find them offensive, they are quite different qualititively from the Protocols. "to demonstrate that you are not presenting original research, you must cite reliable sources that provide information directly related to the topic of the article, and that directly support the information as it is presented" Although the source is hard to come by (you can find it in the British Library and it maybe elsewehre) it is an official publicaiton by the British Government and a reliable source. The stated facts do not contradict existing knowledge of the Mufti and there is no reason to doubt their veracity.

If you look here http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/var/mufti_oj.htm you can see that the current Mufti is also familar with the protocols. Telaviv1 (talk) 15:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revisionist Zionism

It seems the above has been overlooked. --Ludvikus (talk) 20:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)