Talk:History of Wyandotte, Michigan

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This is an excellent page, and the information on here seems to be very accurate. I have a group of Downriver people reviewing it. It does need some wikifying, and citation of sources, and general cleanup. Bear with me while I do that. Derek Balsam 22:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

After some review, it looks like a lot of this has been taken almost verbatim from another Wyandotte site, probably the Wyandotte Historical Society, without attribution. I have lost the link to the site, so I'll have to research further. Derek Balsam 17:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the non-notable and plagiarized sections. No matter how accurate this info is, much of it does not belong in Wikipedia. Mo-Al 20:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Streets - Copied from another source

I have confirmed that some of this text has been taken verbatim from the site at [[1]], the City of Wyandotte Historical Museum web site. The web site appears to be the text of a brochure published by the museum.

The first part of section 2.1 ("Streets") was copied from that source with merely minor rewording (e.g. "by" for "with", commas for periods, etc.). It is clearly a copy, not original work. For example, the following unusual phrases are found in both "the Quaker love of Botany", "things that spontaneously grow in the country", etc. I don't want to further harm the owner's copyright, so I won't paste the entire source here; read it for yourself:

From this article:

The streets of the village were planned according to the Philadelphia pattern. This system was originated by William Penn. He designed one boundary line of Front Street as the beginning...

The plat of the town thus assumed a checkerboard effect. The system became truly an American pattern, and spread throughout the New England ...

From [the source]:

The streets of the village were planned according to the Philadelphia pattern, which originated with William Penn. He designated one boundary line of Front Street as the beginning ...

The plat of the village thus assumed a checkerboard effect. The system became a truly American pattern which spread throughout the New England ...

Although I am no judge myself as to whether this is a copyright problem or not, it certainly is a case of sloppy plagiarism. This text was inserted in version 14:39, 27 June 2006 by User:ZMAN Derek Balsam 22:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I quite agree that at the very least it is sloppy plagiarism and inappropriate as presently written for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Besides the web site that you mention, much of the recently added material was taken verbatim (or nearly so) from the book Proudly We Record . . . [2] published by the Rotary Club Now even if permission were explicitly granted to use the materials under terms of the GFDL, it would still need to be extensively revised to meet Wikipedia standards. Unfortunately, User:ZMAN seems to have taken on a sense of ownership over the article and a general unwillingness to discuss these issues. older ≠ wiser 02:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too long

This article is way too long. I suggest that the sections which were plagiarized be completely removed. Mo-Al

[edit] Too much talk

I think someone needs to take the knife. I came in to fix a spelling error, but as I read the article it seems like "good stuff" but is an advert for a book it came from and the library where you can get it (Being as I live 4 or 5 thousand miles away ...). I'l start by taking the ads out.... oh and correcting the spelling Victuallers 10:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)