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1 Welcome to The History of West Ham United F.C.
2 Link Repository for next section
3 Joey Beauchamp
4 Fair use rationale for Image:Paolo+relegation.jpg
5 Fair use rationale for Image:John Lyall.jpg
6 Fair use rationale for Image:1964 Cup final.jpg

[edit] Welcome to The History of West Ham United F.C.

[edit] Introduction

This is my current check list for restructuring this article. I spent last summer putting down the majority of the info seen today and have occasionally fleshed parts out and found relevant cites when other people have inserted info. However until now I haven't had chance to come back and complete the job. I invite people to edit as they see fit, but to please leave a record when they do so to explain what has been moved or removed.--Koncorde 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving stuff from West Ham United F.C.

West Ham Utd F.C. timeline since 1895

1* I'm of the opinion the side scroll bar seen on the main site is a good idea, poorly implemented. Unfortunately I'm not so savvy with the "EasyTimeline"[1] stuff. Having tinkered with it a bit I've produced a better effort (in my opinion) to the right, but (depending on your screen size) it could easily get out of hand (and screen width) if I put in all information. I have corrected the colours, but it may be a matter of breaking into era's to coincide with the "chapters" of West Ham history.--Koncorde 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

2* Unfortunately since the split with the main page, a lot of the historical information on West Ham has become asynchronous/asymmetrical with conflicting info or poorly condensed historical information meaning it's about as much use as a chocolate teapot. There's whole chunks that need a rewrite on West Ham United F.C. and some of it that could be salvaged for incorporation here.--Koncorde 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links, Cites, References

3* As I'm not that old (yet) I have little recollection of pre-86 football. As such digging around for information is a difficult task. I think if any links are found that include any information then it would be helpful to simply list them here. Although Wikipedia isn't a link depository, for the sake of writing a text useful sources should be shared. Any almanacs, annuals, biographies etc that nobody wants anymore I'd be willing to take off your hands if it'll assist writing a more coherent piece.--Koncorde 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

4* I'm trying to standardise the references/cites as I go through the various sections so as to provide full information on the origin.--Koncorde 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current Progress

5* I'm currently attempting to flesh out the 1895 to 1932 without stepping on the toes of the Syd King entry (which is pretty good in its own right).--Koncorde 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

6* Think introducing a "kit through the ages" might be interesting (similar to Tottenhams). Not sure how to elicit all the correct colours though and there's no hoop socks option. Will have to look into option of creating a few *.png extensions. See wikilink for a guide; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Football_kit

West Ham kits [2][3]

1895-1896: First kit.

1897-1898.

1899-1903.

1899-1903.

1905-1906.

1983-84

7* Have gone back and completely reformatted the early history. Dragged in quotes, images and similar information. Needs formatting to maintain paragraph/sentence structure and legibility.

[edit] Link Repository for next section

http://www.kumb.com/article.php?id=2169 decent Kumb article on kit history to find cites for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koncorde (talk • contribs) 21:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC) http://www.myvillage.com/pages/celebs-bobbymoore.htm - Fenton signing Bobby. http://www.bobbymooreonline.co.uk/The%20Apprentice%20Years.htm - Bobby developed by Malcolm Allison http://www.bobbymooreonline.co.uk/The%20Young%20Bobby%20Moore.htm - Bobby developed by Malcolm Allison+ influence of old pro's. http://www.ex-hammers.com/ex_archive/issue_20.shtml - Tony Gale bigging up Fenton (quote) http://www.ex-hammers.com/news/tucker.shtml - Tucker tells of Fentons "stuck in a rut" ways. http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/6BiographyJohnDick.htm - John Dick bio http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060424/ai_n16219367 - John Lyall from Fenton through Greenwood to himself (The Independent) http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/news/article344435.ece - Greenwood, tactics, training, and "establishing academy" quotes. http://jlmd.blogspot.com/2007/03/not-insular-just-amateur.html - POV with quote chunk about Fenton and co. Plus Paynter touring Europe and style of play. http://www.121s.com/viewtopic.php?t=3865 - Greenwood Obit

[edit] Joey Beauchamp

Joey Beauchamp in Redknapp section... Was he not a Bonds signing ?? Hammer1980 20:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

You're correct actually. I always thought he was a Redknapp signing but apparently he was a Bonds effort. Will get round to amending. Cheers for bringing it up.--Koncorde 22:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Paolo+relegation.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:John Lyall.jpg

Image:John Lyall.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

BetacommandBot (talk) 21:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:1964 Cup final.jpg

Image:1964 Cup final.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

BetacommandBot (talk) 04:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)