Talk:History of Plaid Cymru

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[edit] Ideologies of the Presidents

I've been reading this article and I have to say that it is very helpful and informative, and for the most part admirably neutral in tone. However the table of leaders giving the political ideology seems a bit problematic. It is uncited and therefore looks like original research. This may be a bit oversensitive but I detect a slight tendency to make a political point about the successes of the various leaders compared with their ideologies (this could be jumping to conclusions). Sam Blacketer 22:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Sam for your review! I agree with you, it does feel as if origional research. The idea to have 'ideology' as a catagory stemmed from this statement found in a very early draft on another page (not my contrabution though):

"Though Wigley described his own politics as right-wing, at the time he represented a moderate, pragmatic social-democracy policy, in sharp contrast with rival candidate Dafydd Elis Thomas' far-left socialism."

I have not yet fully fleshed this section out, but feel it does need more sourcing. I do believe that having their ideology as a catagory is valid however, as with most political parties there are sometimes seemingly opposing positions under a wider umbrellia. But lacking definate sources, I will remove them.
Continue to review for other issues!Drachenfyre 22:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
The statement itself - about Wigley's ideology - is, I'm sure, both true and informative. It's just finding a way of evidencing it that's the issue. Deb 12:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Article formatting

I've just spent a few hours copyediting and reformatting the article. There's quite a lot still to be done, but I haven't any more time at the moment. If anyone else wants to do some too, here are a few points that I've been applying:

  1. As stated by the peer reviewer, references should come after the sentence punctuation - i.e. don't put the reference between the bulk of the sentence and the full stop.
  2. There's a fair bit of American English crept into the article (Princess Di being killed in "an auto accident", American spellings and standard punctuation (putting the closing full stop inside quoted text, for example)). As this article is on a British subject, per WP:ENGVAR policy we should be using British English. See American and British English differences if necessary.
  3. I've made the reference list 2-column to save some space. Oh, and can we please stop using all-numeric dates in extraction dates in references - in the example below it's not at all clear whether the reference was extracted on 11th January or 1st November 2007.
  4. I've made a start on using common links to references. That is, if the same reference is used several times in the article, don't duplicate it. e.g. if we have the reference: <ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1818955.stm Q&A: 'Garbagegate' Thursday, 14 February, 2002 extracted 11-01-07]</ref> several times in the article, then in one occurrence put:
    <ref name="garbagegate">[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1818955.stm Q&A: 'Garbagegate' Thursday, 14 February, 2002 extracted 11-01-07]</ref> (the name can be anything as long as it's unique), then for all other places where that link is needed simply put <ref name="garbagegate" />
    Instead of giving each reference a separate number and entry in the reflist, you will get a single reference number with the suffixes a,b,c... appearing in the reflist. I've reduced the size of the article by over 3000 bytes today simply by using this technique.
  5. If we ever want to put this article forward for GA or FA, then any spaces between the ends of sentences and their associated references will have to be removed.

By the way, all the links in the "Bards under the beds" section all merely link to the front page of the South Wales Police website. i'm not sure if it's possible to link to a more direct URL within the site, or if these links should simply be removed, but they're not very useful as they stand. -- Arwel (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've just finished reformatting to my satisfaction. There may still be the odd occasion of a full stop or comma included within a quotation mark, but I think I've caught nearly all of them. Could someone look at reference 22 "Canadine op cit" which doesn't appear to be previously cited?! Regards, -- Arwel (talk) 21:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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