Talk:History of EastEnders

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History of EastEnders was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: April 16, 2007

Contents 1 Good Article review - Failed (References, Fair Use Image Tags, Focus/Structure) 1.1 Report Card 1.2 References 2 Two things 3 Fair use rationale for Image:New ee web.JPG 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Oldee.JPG 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Eastendersearly.jpg

[edit] Good Article review - Failed (References, Fair Use Image Tags, Focus/Structure)

This article still needs some work to get to Good Article status. Here are my comments on this article with reference to the six required attributes of a good article:

[edit] Report Card

1. Is it well written?

Prose/Grammar/Structure: Good

Logical Structure: Somewhat good. Some of the sections are quite long, and may benefit from more organization into subsections.

MoS: Good

Jargon: Good

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

Provides references: References are provided.

Citation of all sources: This article has some references, but has a lot of unreferenced material. Additionally, the majority of the references are from one source, and the rest of the sources are used to reference material in the last few sentences of the article. See below for more details.

Reliable sources: As I do not have access to the one book which is used as a reference for the majority of the article, it is hard to say. However, on the surface, the sources seem reliable.

Original research: Again, without adequate citations, there is no way of telling whether or not this article contains original research.

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

Addresses major aspects: Good

Stays focused: Somewhat good. Again, some sections delve into great detail. Editors of this article should debate whether some material can be deleted, or if organization into subsections would provide a more clear presentation.

4. Is it neutral?

Unbiased: Good

All views: Good

5. Is it stable? Yes

6. Does it contain images?

Tagged and captioned: Good

Enough images: Good

Fair Use Rationale: Eastendersearly.jpg and EastEndersAreHere1985.jpg do not have a fair use rationale. This definitely needs to be added before this article can achieve GA status.

[edit] References

The biggest problem with this article is references. Below are some examples of sections that need to be referenced (or deleted, if no reliable reference exists). This is not a complete list.

• The entire introduction.
• Conception, first paragraph
• Character creation and casting, paragraphs 2, 3, and 4.
• Early History, paragraphs 2, 3, and 4.
• Later History, paragraphs 1 and 3.

Additionally, it may be a good idea to rely on a greater variety of sources. As noted above, the vast majority of references are from Rupert Smith's book.

[edit] Two things

1. There's no mention of the pre-launch publicity campaign (trailers featuring characters introducing themselves direct to camera) which was unprecedented in British television, and 2. At first the BBC insisted on calling it a "serial". When did they finally admit it was a soap opera? -88.109.202.97 15:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:New ee web.JPG

Image:New ee web.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 05:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Oldee.JPG

Image:Oldee.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 01:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Y Done ^anemone|_projectors 09:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Eastendersearly.jpg

Image:Eastendersearly.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 07:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)