Talk:History of Colonial Hong Kong (1800s - 1930s)

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[edit] Intro

"This article details the history of Colonial Hong Kong." Unfortunately, this claim appears to be false. Should we perhaps change it to the future tense? - Nat Krause 13:33, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I totally agree. This article should be the first colonial era before the japanese occupation and that's it. Everything else to follow should belong in other articles. I am practically ready to split the articles up. It is overlapping too many other articles after the 1930s. Benjwong 07:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

I have reviewed the article and have found it on the whole to be of a good quality. However there are several points, suggestions etc that I would like remedied before passing it as GA quality. Please see Wikipedia:What is a good article? for more info. In the case of this article point two is most important to get to GA.

  • Firstly, this is not neccessary for GA, but please expand the lead section to two paragraphs, as given the size of the article, it should really be two. Check out Wikipedia:Lead section for more details.
  • In the history section - in Zexu would be the Chinese commissioner who wrote a letter to Queen Victoria in 1839 taking a stance against the acceptance of opium in trade. He confiscated more than 20,000 chests of opium already at the port and supervised their destruction - please add a reference for this to support the fact of 20,000 chests and the stance against opium.
  • References in the article need to be tidied. For example - [6]. Possession Street still exists to mark the event[6], although its Chinese name is 水坑口街 ("Mouth of the ditch Street"). References i.e. the [6] need to go after a full stop or end of sentance. They should not go midway, in this case after event, but rather at the end of the sentance. Another example - According to the census of 1865, Hong Kong had a population of 125,504, of which some 2,000 were Americans and Europeans[8]. The reference goes after the full stop. There are some other examples of this in the article. Please look carefully.
  • Please expand or clarify this sentance in the population section - Other mainland floods, typhoons and famine would also play a role - furthermore any specifics?
  • Please reference the following - In 1914 despite an exodus of 60,000 Chinese fearing an attack on the colony after World War I, Hong Kong's population continues to increase from 530,000 in 1916 to 725,000 in 1925 and 1.6 million by 1941.
  • The entire integration section needs referencing - The establishment of the free port made Hong Kong a major entrepôt from the start, attracting people from China and Europe alike. Though the society remained segregated and polarized due to language barriers. A de facto segregation existed between the European minority and the Chinese majority. Slow rise of a British-educated Chinese upper class of the late 19th Century forced the creation of racial laws such as the Peak Reservation Ordinance, which prevented Chinese from living in upscale Victoria Peak. The Chinese society had little to no official governmental influence throughout much of the early years. Some of the small number of Chinese elites that the British governors could rely on included Sir Kai Ho and Robert Hotung. Furthermore please expand or clarify the last sentance - who are these people, how, what, when!?
  • One of the most common breakfast was congee with fish and barley. - should be breakfasts.
  • Please reference - In the mid 1800s many of the merchants would sell silk, jade and consult feng shui to open shops that favour better spiritual arrangements.
  • Please reference - By 1880 Hong Kong's port would handle 27% of the mainland's export and 37% of imports.
  • Please reference - A British traveller, Isabella Bird, described Hong Kong in the 1870s as a colony filled with comforts and entertainment only a Victorian society would be able to enjoy.
  • Please expand and reference - The Hong Kong Club at Queen's Road was also a hangout for established tai-pans. Please include what a tai pan is briefly (as people wont kknow without looking at a seperate article). or change to something like influential businessmen instead.
  • Please expand the education section, it is rather short. Furthermore there is not one reference.
  • In the law and order section you DEFINATELY need to reference the following - the lack of intimidation may have been the leading cause for the continual rise in crime.
  • The natural disasters section is rather limited - only one paragraph, suggesting merging elsewhere or expanding the section.
  • Please reference the source of this - The first flight service from Imperial Airways would become available by 1937 at a price of 288 pounds per ticket.
  • This definately needs a reference or to be removed - King Edward Hotel was considered one of the best in the era.
  • Please given attribution to the source of the following two paragraphs at the end - The role of Hong Kong as a political safe haven for Chinese political refugees further cemented its status, and few serious attempts to revert its ownership were launched in the early 1900s. Both Chinese Communist and Nationalist agitators found refuge in the territory, when they did not actively participate in the turmoil in China. However, the dockworkers strikes in the 1920s and 1930s were widely attributed to the Communists by the authorities, and caused a backlash against them. A strike in 1920 was ended with a wage increase of HKD 32 cents.

When modern China began after the falling of the last dynasty, one of the first political statements made in Hong Kong was the immediate change from long queue hairstyles to short haircuts. In 1938 Canton fell to the hands of the Japanese, Hong Kong was considered a strategic military outpost for all trades in the far east, though Winston Churchill assured that Hong Kong was an "impregnable fortress". It was taken as a reality check response since the British Army actually stretched too thin to battle on two fronts.

Please let me know when these have been answered. If you need any further info/help or comments etc please feel free to message me. LordHarris 19:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I am leaving a marker here in case someone else other than LordHarris will review it the second time around within the 7 day period. I have also left a message on his talkpage. Benjwong 21:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Good work, I beleive the article now meets GA criteria. A few suggestions for improvement would be to expand a few sections if there is adequate material e.g. education, law/order and resources. I would also recommend expanding the image captions in the article, as although suitable for GA, I think they would need to be more detailed for A or FA class. LordHarris 21:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tenses

The "would be"s all need changed to was, it _did_ happen, it's not yet to happen. Chris 01:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Colonialhongkongarms.png

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BetacommandBot 19:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)