Talk:History of Brazil (1964–1985)
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Could someone please re-word the section i marked as not NPOV (or rather, the whole article)? Right now the language does not meet all the criteria of NPOV and encyclopedic quality. I do not question the rejecting the military regime which the text here represents, but the way the author has done. We still need to be as neutral as possible.--Constanz - Talk 16:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No mention of military regime abuses?
The article is quite biased and does not mention at all the abuses of the military regime; that single issue deserves an entire section. The structure of the article is also awkward: what is the relevance of this long section of 'history of brazilian diplomacy'? The portuguese article is expectedly much more relevant and balanced in this regard.. Please do clean up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.58.248.208 (talk) 07:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
- I agree. (unsigned)
- I don't. Less than 500 people were killed or tortured by the regime. Considering that at the time Brazil had a population of 90 million, that makes the "dirty war" almost irrelevant. The Dictatorship was all about power. To keep it, they created the "revolutionary war" myth.
- Even if the atrocities committed by the regime do not compare to those in other Latin American countries, why are we using the misery suffered in these other nations as some sort of yard stick? Consider the people who were tortured, "disappeared" or fled; using numbers to measure the relevancy of oppressive means used by a regime turns the victims into just that, disregarding their suffering, minimizing their pain and distancing us from the reality of the situation. (unsigned)
- Mr. or Miss. "I dont [agree]" up there, go fuck yourself. I am a Brazilian and I am so throughly offended by your stupidity and ignorance. You must be some slack-jawed yokel with little insight into the reality of people who have lived through oppression, so keep your mouth shut instead of imparting your rude and mostly uninformed opinion. (unsigned)
- Of course it's relevant. In Brazil, the violence of the regime played a big role in demoralizing it. The murder of Vladimir Herzog was crucial in that aspect. Around 250 persons were killed, and a lot more were tortured. Sure, in Argentina or Chile things were much more violent, but that does not mean it's irrelevant for Brazil. 201.81.86.219 15:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- With no reference whatsoever to Operation Condor, not to say other things, this can be only hopelessly biased... The article needs clean-up... Tazmaniacs 19:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Less than 500? Wooo, where do you got those numbers? Even official accounts talk about thousands, not hundreds. In reality the number is much bigger; they just destroyed evidence. Here in Natal, Rio Grande do Norte, a bit distant of the center of power, many "communists" in federal university mysteriously disappeared in 70's and 80's.. by the way, the university itself was built during the military regime and one core design was to keep people dispersed, without big "centers" that could attract a crowd and form some kind of motim. (among the only resistence against the coup was in an university, at PUC-RIO, the police had to force entrance there :). --189.12.151.36 15:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Uh...
The "Role of the United States" section starts with "The role of the United States in these events was complex and at times contradictory," and then it proceeds to mention various things the US government did to help the military and how happy they were when Jango got coup d'eted, not explaining why that is "complex and contradictory." I know this wiki is in English and therefore admitting that the United States might not be the greatest country in the history of the universe is frowned upon, but I'd guess it wouldn't hurt to at least be internally consistent, right? --200.222.30.9 16:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Chile and Argentina took cues from the Brazilian Military Government, in how to get rid of political dissidents. the total number of mising persons was never completely verified. One of the famous escapes was from Lenoel Brizola via Uruguay dressed as a Woman. Eventually Brizola returned to Brazil and became the Governor of the state of Rio de janeiro and active left wing activist.
During the failed terrorist Bombing of Rio Centro during a Festival to promote Labor Day. Several placements of bombs and locking of emergency exit doors at the venue were found. The primary bomb maker was a Capt in the brazilian Army a demolition expert who had one of the devices explode in his lap during final assembly in his car, a Puma. The Captain did survive his injuries, amazingly. SInce he had eviceration f the small and large bowel and injury to both arms and legs. Some information was retrieved from him and the suspicion of involvement by the president João Baptista Figueiredo in these bombings was in question. Since parts of the devices found were similar to the ones used to Blow up Newsstands that sold/ distributed Communist and/or anti government literature. The bomb placements use to cut the stands in half so they would look like open books after the detonation of the device. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.182.94.86 (talk) 21:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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