Talk:History of Bahrain

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We are missing here great parts of the Bahraini history. What about the Qaramita? 20:29, 8 October 2005 (UTC) i love bahrain and i have a book for it

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[edit] Continual Revisions

This page has come under sustained vandalism with attempts to continually delete content and remove links - specifically to give the Islamists' narrative of recent history. Therefore rv deletion of references to the role of Iran and the spread of Islamic fundamenatlism as an ideology in the 1970s, and as well as the consequent social affects. Sources that refer to terrorism in during the 1990s uprising are deleted as are links to the work of Bahrain's leading Marxist academic Abdulhadi Khalaf.

82.194.62.22 has been warned and banned frequently by admin for repeated vandalism and destruction of content. Frequently used sock puppets for reverts. This page is yet another example.

[edit] Al Qarmatians and Mongols

Placed Al Qarmatians and Mongols under separate headings because the two periods have nothing in common and are seperated by hundreds of years.

Will delete the Mongol heading if there's no more info and include the sentence there elsewhere. Dilmun 12:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

  • No objections received. In which case will delete heading 'Mongol invasion' as there is not enough text to justify it as a separate section.

Dilmun 12:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] lede sentence

In the lede sentence it says: "... which is thought to be an inaccurate folk etymology ... according to some scholars ..." This sounds terribly weasily. Who thinks so? Which "scholars"?
Also, I looked at the referenced url, which is an almost century-old source and long since outdated with respect to the Verethegna bit. I don't know if the term Bahrain derives from that or not, but if it does, then it would be 3rd century CE, which is pretty darn recent, and it sounds odd that a conquered kingdom would get the name "victorious".
Moreover, Verethregna is certainly not a slayer of any dragon, least of all one named "Verethra", which means obstacle, and Verethregna means "one who overcomes obstacles", which essentially that divinity's role in the Avesta. And "one who overcomes obstacles" is of course "victorious", which is what "Bahram" means. See also Vahram#In_Avestan_scholarship.
-- Fullstop 16:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Stop vandalising

Dear Dilmun - The Wikipedia is not a personal website, to prepare it the way that you like. You are vandalising this article by removing, and reinstalling the previous entry that has no historical credibility, and contain many mistakes. If this happen again, I have to report you to the Wikipedia. 87.194.82.148 19:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Stop adding nonsense to wikipedia then. Your edits are bogus. For a start:
Dilmun 21:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
The source for the info are United Nation and [http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm CAIS]. You can hide yourself in a cocoon and claim a false history for Bahrain, but this encyclopaedia has not been designed to serve your falsification. You have to accept that facts, including Bahrain was part of Iran until 1970s, and even today 65% of inhabitants are Iranian origin. Today we live in the age of inforamtion, and there is no place for falsification! Zoroastrian 05:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
You're right Wikipedia's no place for falsification which is why I've reverted your edits based on your [http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm CAIS] document. Dilmun 14:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CAIS bogus document

The [http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm CAIS document], "How Was separated from Iran?", on which User:Zoroastrian sources their edits is clearly a bogus document (as well as lacking basic standards of English). The author states he is a senior research member of "Centre for Geopolitics and International Borders studies" at the School of Oriental and African Studies at the London University. This Centre does not exists. There is no mention of this Centre except in the CIAS document - searching Google and other sources will confirm this.

As the document is authored by a representative of an institution that does not exist, the document is clearly bogus and cannot be considered credible by wikipedia's standards.

The standard of the document is further emphasised by its clearly unacademic language with its (amusing) use of terms such as 'dastardly' and 'depersonalisation'. With its propaganda-style rhetoric and uncertain origin this document is not a valid source. Dilmun 14:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Visit [1] to obtain more info about the author of the article in question. Also, if you pay attention, you will hopefully realize that the published article is a “Translation” i.e. should be translated accurately as possible to match the the published article in original language.
With regard to the Geopolitics & International Boundaries Research Centre visit: [2] and [Geopolitics & International Boundaries Research Centre] to confirm its existence! Also their email address is: rs7@soas.ac.uk!
Finally, I have no intention to humiliate you by proving you wrong, in fact I’m helping you to overcome your state of denial with regard to Bahrain.Zoroastrian 12:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CAIS Permission

The article is from CAIS with explicit permission to release the content to Wikipedia. The notice says: CAIS releases the contents of this page (http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/mishmahig.htm) to "Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopaedia" (including the images)- Date of release: 18 December 2006. Zoroastrian 09:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmation CAIS blacklisted document

The CAIS document referred to above has now been 'blacklisted' by wikipedia and references to it are being deleted across wikipedia by User:Siebrand (who edited the page yesterday to remove the links). The History of Bahrain page was rewritten in December 2006 and January 2007 using the CAIS document as the source. As there's agreement on the non suitability of this source these edits need to be reverted. Untangling this mess is going to be impossible, so I'm going to revert the page to the pre-CAIS edits. If this means that I've deleted an edit you've subsequently made, I hope that you will simply re-add the information. I accept that this isn't ideal, but what's the alternative? Let the current edits stand? Dilmun 20:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV check

The page should be double-checked for accuracy and neutrality by third-party neutral users. --07fan (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You still have to state your reasons as per Wikipedia:POV check:
Place {{POV-check}} at the top of the suspect article, then explain your reasons on the talk page of the suspect article. To specify the section of the discussion on the talk page, use {{POV-check|talk page section name}}.
--Slacker (talk) 17:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The discussion for the POV check is on Talk:Bahrain --Enric Naval (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)