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[edit] The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV (September 2006)

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[edit] RE:"Preliminary Findings on Killings of Unarmed Civilians, Arbitrary Arrests and Summary Arrests Since 3 June 1989", dated 30 August 1989.

How do you want it? Scanned? Or hardcopy? -- Миборовский 22:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

And it's Miborovsky, please. :p -- Миборовский 23:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I will have it scanned, uh, some time. I have sent you an email, please reply to it so I know what your email address is. -- Миборовский 05:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - October 2006

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sorry I know nothing about the PLa thing your talking about but if your intrested heres how Joh smith behaved on the PVA talk page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:People%27s_Volunteer_Army --Gary123 04:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I didnt want to beleive that Johnsmith had a vendetta against me,I was hoping he was just superactive on China articles and it was just a coincidence, but after his editing of the Frank Hogan page which has nothing to do with the ususal types of articles that Johnsmith has been editing it seems impossible to say otherwise. Its ana article about the NYC DA the only thing that drew him to it is me being the creator. Id be grateful if youd help me out. --Gary123 04:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Just in case anyone had any doubts John Smith's had to proove to us where he stands.Dont let his hyperbole fool you look at the subject matter of his previous edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=John+Smith%27s --Gary123 04:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

sorry i misunderstood. --Gary123 04:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Second Sino-Japanese war

Some smart-alek dead white European male who thought he knew a lot about China and Japan? -- Миборовский 20:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: HK Croton

O, I've made a terrible mistake! I've corrected that, you can take a look. Cheers.--K.C. Tang 01:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AMT

Man, I had long forgotten about that one. That was kind of a drive by shooting. I was doing something else and no intention to wander into that debate.

In my own life I had recently been in an altercation with the boss about "unnecessary complexity" in one of my implementations. Essentially he was pushing a minimalistic approach which would have been completely unable to introspect self-diagnostics. A month later that same boss called me up on the phone when the product misbehaved at a major client site accusing my component of not working properly. Because of all the "complexity" I had refused to remove, I was able to walk the boss through a series of inbuilt diagnostics over the phone that eliminated every theory he had about the association between my component and the misbehaviour of the product in the field. He didn't want my diagnostic complexity because he didn't understand it, and it interfered with his capacity to randomly point fingers at anyone he wished to crucify rather than solving real problems. We used to joke that simplicitity was defined as whatever the boss wanted that day. Later he called me "clever" and fired me anyway.

I'm of the general view that in any successful software project, you need to bell a cat or three. There needs to be one to three aspects of the design where you choose to confront complexity head on, and it needs to be done on the most favorable terms, regardless of impacts elsewhere.

There is rarely one right place to confront complexity, it's usually a matter of judgement what you choose to confront and what you leave for later. An example of this approach going to hell in a hand basket was the Intel Itanium. They moved so much complexity from the hardware into the compiler that the required compiler never materialized. Compilers are quite hard to begin with, you want to be careful about "doubling down" where the going is already tough. It's usually better to balance out your complexity over multiple subsystems with narrow interactions.

In the case of MediaWiki, it's not practical for the code base to incorporate specific mechanisms to simplify content creation unless those mechanisms are fully general, and rarely does one stumble onto the fully general formulation in the first instance. So where then is this complexity handled? For the people who adhere to the absolute principle of accessibility on the content side of the fence, there is nowhere left at all.

The right place, in my view, is the basement level of a suite of abstract templates, which then devolves into the social problem of saying "wait a minute, the normal rules of accessiblity don't apply here, you need to be especially astute to mess with this stuff".

Most of all, you need to be especially astute about ensuring that the complexity you are trying to cope with stays inside the abstract subbasement, and doesn't leak into the content layers above. Complexity leaks like hydrogen gas. If you're not clever, it leaks through solid metal. And people just can't understand this until they have seen it. This goes back to the first days of computer science. Early practitioners were struck dumb by the realization that at the end of the day software development might involve more debugging than coding. At the time, no one expected this.

In the contect of Wikipedia, it's no easy matter to enforce these abstraction enclaves. There are many active participants who have been burned by accessibility issues, but very few (within the context of Wikipedia itself) who have wrangled with long-term complexity leakage. One form of complexity leakage is to force people to code up every page the hard way, filling millions of article pages with brittle and inconsistent syntax. It might not be unbearable in any single instance, but the sum total represents a terrible legacy for the project as whole. Nevertheless, because of Wikipedia culture, the accessibility advocates carry the brighter torches, and one after another of the bright torch bearers will stumble upon the AMT quagmire and not at first comprehend its principled exception.

One of the rules about where to tackle complexity is that it has to have defensible boundaries relative to the culture is exists within. If every person who comes along erodes the boundary, steals another rock from the fence and carts it off for another purpose, the carefully chosen complexity quarantine is soon reduced to a futile gesture.

That's bad enough, and then you have the agents of erosion showing up and claiming that wandering away with the stones is uncontroversial, which put me over the top. It might just be that AMT is untenable within the existing Wikipedia culture, but I'm not going to concede the point on circular arguments.

So much for philosophical reminiscence. Did you have a specific question? MaxEnt 19:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Template cleanup

A few templates you created, Template:Less, Template:Leftbraces, Template:Not a quine, Template:Includeonlysubst, Template:SUBST, Template:Last edited, Template:Rightbraces, and Template:Greater, have been marked for deletion as deprecated and orphaned templates. If, after 14 days, there have been no objections, the templates will be deleted. If you wish to object to their deletion, please list your objections here and feel free to remove the {{deprecated}} tag from the templates. If you feel the deletions are appropriate, no further action is necessary. Thanks for your attention. --MZMcBride 01:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Clearly these are all related. Are any of them in active use? Would you have any objection to me deleting them? Cheers. --MZMcBride 01:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I consider myself pretty proficient in templates, and yet I have no idea what all of these templates are for. Template:Rightbraces isn't used anywhere, unlike Template:!, which is used everywhere. Also, if the only use is in your user space, then it would be more appropriate to have the templates moved to user subpages. The templates were intentionally placed outside of <noinclude> tags in order to display the message across any possible substitutions. What's the purpose of all of these templates? --MZMcBride 19:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Greater

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