User talk:Hilarleo

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Hello Hilarleo! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! NikoSilver 10:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Getting started Wikipedia tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

[edit] Hello again

In what exact way may I be useful to you? I briefly checked your links and saw they are astronomy-related, but I have no idea on the dispute(s) at hand (not to mention about astronomy as a subject in general). The best advice I can give you, is to find independent, verifiable and reliable sources, and to paste those sources as references along with the changes you wish to make in these articles. Check out WP:BLP for the first one also. Be sure your views are represented in due proportion within the article, and also to be civil to others (even when provoked) and to discuss your changes. That should do it, but if it doesn't, there are steps for dispute resolution you can follow. Cheers, and good luck! NikoSilver 13:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Haha, babelfish translated Watch out literally! (like as if the watch is out for partying). Anyway, I still don't understand. Who did what when and why? Why is that bad? I really can't help if I don't know the basics of the dispute. I don't even know if there's a dispute to begin with... NikoSilver 13:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if the sources are not that reliable yet, then I'm afraid Wikipedia doesn't give a dime. Wikipedia does not care about The Truth^TM; it only cares about what is verifiable. So, these sources have to fight their battle elsewhere, to become more reliable, more academic, more mainstream, more cabalistic, and professed by esteemed scholars, before they make their way into WP. I respect your view (and I really know zilt about the issue), but you have chosen the wrong medium to propose it. Wikipedia merely reflects what people say out there. Not what the truth is, no matter how right, how against the media/whatever cabal, or how good that is. Sorry for not being able to help in this site, and pardon my bluntness in my last advice: find reliable sources -or- try elsewhere to make those sources deserve the "reliable" label. NikoSilver 16:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)