Talk:Higher consciousness
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Folks, I moved "consciousness: spiritual approaches" over from "consciousness" which is a more neuro-science approach. I hope it fits here. --Dylanfly 20:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
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- The existing explanation is very good. I added the Yeats’ text (from his poem Vacillation) and some references to convey the idea that Higher Consciousness is not something essentially different from normal, everyday consciousness, but is just more chilled-out. In other words, that the difference is one of degree rather than kind. Mr.EofLife 22:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
This articleSeems a bit simplistic to me. Various Higher Consciousness 'traditions' (?) are lumped together. Are there levels above normal human levels or just one? Are the states (one or many) in the various traditions and religions equivilent or even comparable? For example, some states appear to be (when described) secular, and others very theistic. Are there phisiological side effects? How do HC compare to mental aberations? More references are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JustAnotherJoe (talk • contribs) 18:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Higher consciousness kind, truthful and humble???
I would say that this sentence
- These faculties are aroused by and developed in conjunction with certain dispositions of character such as patience, kindness, truthfulness, humility and forgiveness towards one's fellow man – qualities without which higher consciousness is not possible.
is POV. "Higher consciousness" is understood differently by different people and I can certainly imagine a higher consciousness without any of these nice traits. A higher consciousness may not label behavioural traits "good" and "bad" in the same way ordinary humans do. I mean look at sci-fi: the borg have supposedly achieved something that can be called a higher consciousness but they are neither kind nor humble... Alex.g 23:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Not in the least bit NPOV
I thought about editing this page back to NPOV but it's much too late for me to start. This article states as fact things that there are differing opinions about and provides few (if any) sources. Needs serious improvement!69.254.93.246 (talk) 05:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gobbledeegook
You apparently are confused and I presume an adherent of some religion or other. The text you removed was the essence of NPOV, as it placed the phenomenon in question in an objective perspective. It's removal IS expressive of your point of view, presumably as result of your belief system whatever it is, that that system confers the alleged higher conciousness. As much contention as there is over the term consciousness, this article is more or less pure nonsense and illustrates a complete FAILURE of NPOV as noted by the user above. Lycurgus (talk) 04:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Also, if Gurdjieff deserves mention in this context, it would seem that Abraham Maslow, among others would as well. 74.78.162.229 (talk) 10:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
