User talk:HermanHiddema

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[edit] Origins of Chess

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[edit] Origins of Chess

I just want to say that this edit you made is appreciated. Nice work on hunting down a public access version for everyone to read ! Havelock the Dane Talk 15:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Go software, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as articles for deletion. If you can indicate how Go software is different from the previously posted material, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{hangon}} underneath the other template on the article, and also put a note on Talk:Go software saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please feel free to use deletion review, but do not continue to repost the article if it is deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we request you to follow these instructions. Nate · (chatter) 23:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season's Greetings

May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future.
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[edit] Thank you

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[edit] Article size

Hello... I left a note on the article size talk page. I think you have a sockpuppet issue running through your discussion so I'm requesting a checkuser of the discussion page. I don't know if this is over the top but I've been dealing with a troll for about a year now and I'm terribly sick of it. Mrshaba (talk) 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to go about the checkuser request as I've never done one. The sockpuppets appear to be 199.125.109.xxx, Oakwillow and recently Apteva but there are probably many more. I've been dealing with a long term disruption issue from 199.125.109.xxx on the solar energy page. The article size logic is being used to chop off hunks of the page although the readable prose is reasonable. This is doubly annoying because the page is currently GA and working towards FA. I've scanned through 199's edit history a while back and found the a coincidence between the article size page and the Go page. This in and of itself is by no means a crime but the stubborn disruption of both pages seems characteristic of what I've dealt with and as I said, I'm terribly sick of it. If you have any ideas I'd like to hear them. Mrshaba (talk) 19:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Well the first thing to understand about checkuser is that it is a last resort confirmation of a sockpuppet, and the results are confidential. So you don't do a checkuser, you do a sockpuppet, however you have to understand that multiple usernames are permitted as long as they do not pretend to be separate users arguing one issue. So for example if you wish to do editing from home using Foo and from work using Bar, that is perfectly acceptable as long as you do not add Foo and Bar to the same poll, or try to make the same edit, making it look like two users are in favor of something or opposed to it, which would make them sockpuppets. The page you were asking about has several editors participating in the discussion, but if you do a user history you will quickly convince yourself that none are sockpuppets of another. Since I am the one that you have the most complaints about, it would be easier if you simply addressed them to me, instead of running all over the place. As an IP user, many if not most of my edits are using different accounts, but I am always careful not to vote twice on any issue, which would be what would happen were I using sockpuppets. Note, any discussion left on IP talk pages is rarely seen, so it will generally be moved to the userpage who left it so that the discussion can be carried on in a place where it can be found. This note may be moved to user talk:Mrshaba if you wish. Replies to user talk:199xxx are unlikely to be seen. 199.125.109.110 (talk) 22:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Mrshaba. As far as I can tell, 199.125.109.xxx and Oakwillow are the same person, but this does not constitute sockpuppetry. I have not asked Oakwillow, but the account Oakwillow was only registered recently and seems to edit the same articles that 199.xxx did. However, there is nothing wrong with a user that first edits from an ip address without logging in and that later makes an account and logs in. Oakwillow has never claimed not to be 199.xxx and has never claimed that the user 199.xxx supported his point of view, or any such dishonest activity. As such, his editing may be annoying to you, and he may make edits that contradict your point of view, he sure makes edits that contradict mine, but that does not constitute vandalism.
Oakwillow has also, in the past, trimmed the Go (board game) article in the same way you experience with the solar energy article. With the same rationale of reducing article size. I and other editors have reverted this, and have engaged on discussion on the subject. He has not trimmed the article since. I would suggest that you seek the help of other regular editors of the solar energy article in reverting and warning the user. If several editors agree that the material should not be removed, and if you warn a user that you will ask for a block if they continue to go against the consensus of editors, then you have grounds to proceed with such a block if the user continues disruptively editing.
Also I have in the past worked constructively with 199.xxx, for example in the article go and mathematics, which he started and of which he wrote large parts. I personally have no experience with the checkuser procedure, but I think that in this case there is insufficient reason to go through with it. HermanHiddema (talk) 22:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the response and I appreciate your constructive comments. I had noticed the debate on the article size talk page seemed to be carried first by 199 then Oakwillow so that's where the sockpuppet thing comes in. I thought there was finally a chance of connecting the dots but you are right about the application of checkuser. I've set up a "moving and removing" section to discuss trimming on the solar energy talk page and it's worked for the most part. I'm the sole regular on the SE page so dealing with 199 has been complicated. It's getting close to the finish line though so that's nice. Good luck with Go. Mrshaba (talk) 23:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
If you are not familiar with the dashboard, you can find out[1] that while you have edited SE more than anyone else, there are (were) seven other frequent contributors. The definition of incestuous is having an insufficient gene pool, so I wouldn't be too proud of being the only contributor. It isn't a good thing to be. Go (board game) has a larger number of editors, at least twenty. I think that the reason why others don't wish to edit "your" article is that you are not very welcoming. There are other editors who also try to guard "their" articles. However it serves no useful purpose. 199.125.109.110 (talk) 00:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fixing your citations

I'm fixing the Go article citations for you. I'll be editing the page shortly. — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 10:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful, thanks! I was quite dreading doing it all by hand :-) HermanHiddema (talk) 11:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem. The rest of the Further reading list needs formatting using the Citation template, as I have done to the historical books. Please use http://www.worldcat.org to find full information about books (author, title, year, publisher, ISBN/OCLC, edition). — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 11:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)