User talk:Heracletus

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[edit] Macedonian language

I didn't mean to include the UN in the list, I was using another language's infobox as a base and I didn't notice that. I know that Macedonian is an official minority language in Liqenas (and possibly elsewhere), though I don't know of any English language sources. <sarcasm>Don't worry, I'm not the flaming type like most of those evil history-stealing Skopjians</sarcasm>. --AimLook (talk) 12:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regulation

That's a tricky one. They publish the official grammars and dictionaries which in itself is a form of regulation (prescriptivism). It's your call. If you disagree with it being in the article, I won't object if you remove it. --AimLook (talk) 14:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

No, no problem with that. I still think that Albania should have [citation needed], cause the article given as source is like flame... User_talk:Francis_Tyers#Macedonian_Language...

Read it here:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Macedonians+in+Greece+and+Albania:+A+comparative+study+of+recent+developments&hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&um=1&ie=UTF-8&oi=scholart

first link...

I think i'm like a trouble for people editing this article... :P But, everyone should do the same for Greek ones, too... Heracletus (talk) 14:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your careful and considered reply. I have found a source that states that it does have a form of official recognition in Albania, now if you can find a source that refutes this source then by all means present it. I'm not particularly interested in what the source says about Greece as there are many better articles on the subject. I can give you a short bibliography if you so desire. Best regards, - Francis Tyers · 15:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Francis Tyers, as to whether the parts you trimmed where relevant or not: I could make a .tk site called greeksuperiority.tk and state some bad things or stuff that is not real about "Macedonia", then add some trimmed quotes saying that "Macedonia" never existed and then have some friends from the local university add their names. That is to say, that sources are to be judged as a whole. A source that flames about Greece, and uses "Macedonija" as one of its own sources is not a very good one to use. So, please either change the infobox or the source. Or, let me do it, and tell me if you agree with the way i'll do it.
You would then be welcome to attempt to get this published in a third-party peer-reviewed academic journal where-upon it would qualify for inclusion in Wikipedia. - Francis Tyers · 13:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Haha, ok... :D There have been publications by what one would consider the Greek hard-liners in "third-party peer-reviewed academic journals"... :D Heracletus (talk) 05:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
On the status of the Macedonian language in Albania? Fantastic, I'd be keen to see them. - Francis Tyers · 11:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
No, on the status of "Macedonia", in general. You know if scientists argue about you not existing, it's rather pointless for them to argue about your language... :D However, those are not my ideas, so don't bug me for sources... :D Heracletus (talk) 04:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greco-Turkish War

In response to your message about this edit[1] to the article Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922), I noticed that the reference wasn't mentioned anywhere else on the article. I spent a considerable amount of time trying to find it in the revision history, but to no avail. Placing the {{cn}} tag is what we do on Wikipedia in such cases. In this example, it has resulted in someone providing the correct reference. I'm just really surprised that this faulty link remained on such the article for so long.

The tone of your message was quite rude; I suggest that, in future, before assuming that a long-standing and experienced editor has not done something, you assume good faith that he has done his best in making a particular edit, which was the case here.--Damac (talk) 10:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo and Dardani, entered by Heracletus (talk) 01:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Then we're going to have to fix that article too. There is enough proof to show that the Dardani were Illyrian. --Getoar (talk) 01:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


IF YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THEN HAVE FUN WITH IT. YOU PRETEND TO KNOW WHAT I KNOW. IGNORANT!--Getoar (talk) 01:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo

The problem is that you were removing sourced information. If you think it's wrong and should be removed, you need to explain why on talk. No problem with doing it, as long as it's explained. Black Kite 01:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Yes, I know that's a problem, but even a quick note on talk to say "I am doing this - this is my reason" would be enough. Black Kite 01:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks for using the talk. The quickest way to re-insert information is to copy and paste from the previous diff [2], checking that you don't overwrite anything else (the lead paragraph doesn't need changing anyway). Black Kite 02:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding reversions[3] made on February 19, 2008 to Kosovo

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Kurykh 06:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Since the Kosovo article is under article probation and revert warring is particularly harmful at this time, I've blocked you anyway. You can be unblocked if you promise to keep away from the controversy for a while. I'll also point you to WP:ARBMAC, please bear in mind that longer revert limitations are handed out for revert-warring over Balkan-related topics pretty quickly these days. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HELP US MAKING THE PROJECT OF ANCIENT GREEK WIKIPEDIA

We are the promoters of the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek. we need your help, specially for write NEW ARTICLES and the TRANSLATION OF THE MEDIAWIKI INTERFACE FOR ANCIENT GREEK, for demonstrating, to the language subcommittee, the value of our project.

Thanks a lot for your help. Ἡ Οὐικιπαιδεία needs you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.40.197.5 (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)