Talk:Heroes (TV series)

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Contents 1 Lead Paragraph 2 Brea Grant gets cast in Heroes 3 Powerless 4 If anyone wants to include this... 5 Style and scope of ingress

[edit] Lead Paragraph

I am trimming down the Lead significantly, as recentism seems to have crept in with some unnecessary details (when the second season began, etc.) I'll be removing it, but would be amenable to discussing any of the edits I perform. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The lead is too long? Wow, that’s a first...everyone was complaining in the peer review that it was too short. I think the lead is too short for an article of this length. I think currently, the idea would be to either leave the lead as is over expand it more...this is a pretty long main page article...the lead is sufficient or under-sufficient for an article of this size...but too short? Nah, I don’t think so. I disagree with trimming the lead. Look at the peer review...expanding the lead was a big topic. I don’t think the article includes too much recenticism, seeing how there hasn’t been any recent activity or breaking news about the series since December 2007. It gives a clear overview of the show, date, times, season, production staff, extensions, and awards. I mean, I think it sums up the article well and is fine.--ChrisisinChrist ^{comments and complaints here!} 04:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I hate how how Chris disagrees with everything ;) but I'm going to have to agree with him. Sorry Arcayne, but I like the lead. It looks really good and does summarise the article really well. Thanks for the thought but I disagree. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 05:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

There's still room for trimming... a bit of trivia here, a too-specific-date there... I've given it a pass - the revised version is here and the diff. is here. --Ckatz^chat_spy 06:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't always disagree, do I? lol..okay, I mostly do...but, back to the point. I agree that the lead does have trivia, so I like the little tweaks that User:Ckatz made. Originally, when I expanded the lead (after the peer review) I modeled it after a couple of featured television articles that I had read on wikipedia...so, I just wanted to say that it was for that reason that I originally included some of the information that I did. However, I will say that I think the lead is good in correlation to the legnth of the article. Currently, I thik the version that Ckatz has posted is good and better than it was before...but, the originally lead doesnt need to many changes, in my opinion.--ChrisisinChrist ^{comments and complaints here!} 15:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I learned to challenge article changes from Ckatz and Arcayne...FYI...lol. Wikipedia should have verified sources and encyclopedic content--ChrisisinChrist ^{comments and complaints here!} 15:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brea Grant gets cast in Heroes

Heroes has a new character. I put the infomation in "Casting". If you wish to place the infomation somewhere else, that's fine. The infomation should be put somewhere since it's been officially announced. [1] dposse (talk) 16:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

that's the right place for it, agreed. (fixed the title, too.) ThuranX (talk) 20:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Powerless

Well Heroes is starting soon, and I was wondering if anyone wanted to get Powerless to GA or FA status before the season started. The page is almost there, and with some new info and some clean up, I'm sure we can have at least one notable episode of Heroes! Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 07:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] If anyone wants to include this...

http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/release_detail.nbc/nbcuniversaltelevisiondistribution-20080521000000-nbcuniversaldebuts.html

this is an article from nbc.com talking about new heroes trading cards...i dont have time to include the information in the wikipedia article, but if anyone has a spare moment and is desperately anticipating some verifiable legit heroes scoop, check out the link and include the info in the article...

thanks!--ChrisisinChrist ^{comments and complaints here!} 03:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Style and scope of ingress

I think the ingress to this article is way, way too much focused on the commercial success of the series. This is not at all interesting in a long-term perspective compared to information about content, general synopsis etc.

The broadcast statistics, number of viewers etc, should have it's own section, while the ingress should be much short, have more focus on content, and briefly mention the most important things about its commercial success.

I bet that 95% of the hits to this page is NOT from people looking from broadcast statistics. In addition, the current structure simply makes it pretty boring to read! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.50.2 (talk) 20:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)