Talk:Heretics of Dune
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[edit] 1500 Years?
Do we have any canon sources for the "1,500" year time span between GEoD and HoD? I have read and re-read this book and I cannot see any quotes (( unless i am merely blind, haha )) but I keep seeing the characters refer to "milennia" and "the milennia" passing since the reign of Leto II. I interpreted this to mean there was more than one. Am I just insane?
scotty 04:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)scottrossi
- It was my impression that around 5,000 years had passed between the end of GEoD and HoD; someone changed that to 1,500. Lacking a clear reference, I didn't fight the change. Justin Johnson 08:10, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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- I changed it to "Thousands of years" as we have no reference for 5,000 or 1,500. Etan 22:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Ive just changed it from 1500 or 3500 to 1000's of years becuse it dosn't say it in the book how many years have passed and it says '1000's of years still after his death the tyrant still controls us...' (odrade in tabar-finds the secret hoard)
plus, dose it realy matter? its a great book and thats what counts not some stupid time scale!
posted by ^V-/~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.68.54.108 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- And I changed "1000's" to "thousands" because the former is just god-awful ugly. SandChigger 00:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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- According to http://www.dunenovels.com/timeline.html Leto takes the throne 10217AG and is killed in 13725AG (3508 years). Sheeana is born in 15214 (1489 years after Leto is killed). For this reason, I am amending the article to say 3500 and 1500 again and will provide the ref 195.153.45.54 10:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
The timespan is mentioned in the book itself. From one of the recent Ace paperback editions of HoD, page 7:
... Lucilla, who had come to depend on her experience of the Jessica person buried some five thousand years back in the Sisterhood's genetic manipulations, ....
Assuming Leto II reigned for 3500 years (which I think is a given), the remainder is 1500. And from page 10:
... And fifteen hundred years since the Tyrant's death, the Sisterhood remained powerless to unlock the central knot of that fearsome accomplishment.
Emphasis mine. So, I think the using fifteen hundred years in the article is justified. Mpd (talk) 01:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Nose Causes The Tail rationale
I do not mean by this to contribute original research and have added no analysis or conclusions of my own. I've put two primary sources together where the similarity speaks for itself. As far as I know, this is the only place in the Dune books where Herbert doesn't have a "mashup" of religious sources but quotes rather explicitly from one of his direct influences, which makes this more than a passing curiosity and worthy of note. But I could be wrong, it may not be worth mentioning. Scott1329m 19:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
