Talk:Herbert Plumer, 1st Viscount Plumer

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Nunquam Dormio 19:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)The reading list added by Nighthawk seems a rather general WW1 list. Anyone know whether these books add any real insight into Plumer?

Those books listed that were removed provide limited but valid information regarding Plumer.

Of particular interest are Haigs Command, Deaths Men and Meine Kriegserinnerungen. If you have not read these books how can you feel qualified to delete this input?--Nighthawkx15 23:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Nighthawk

[edit] front lines?

"Few of the serving troops would have seen any of the five army commanders (Henry Horne, 1st Baron Horne, Plumer, Julian Byng, Hubert Gough, Henry Rawlinson, 1st Baron Rawlinson) in person, let alone the commander in Chief (John French, 1st Earl of Ypres then Douglas Haig, 1st Earl Haig). "

does this mean that Plumer was seen by the troops and that he was at the front lines? or is the sentence just a statement

It's general waffle. Now removed.

Got rid of the statement that many of the British commanders in WW1 were from the Cavalry. This is a widely believed myth - apart from Haig and one engineer all corps commanders and above were (for fairly obvious reasons) infantrymen.

This is a good example of why I no longer contribute to Wikipedia I'm tired of ignorant people editing my efforts. You will of course be able to cite the background - cavalry or infantry- of the following army commanders

Allenby Gough Plumer Horne Birdwood Rawlinson Byng I can't be bothered --84.57.40.184 (talk) 09:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)Nighthawkx15

[edit] Appearance

The tone of this article seems to be that Plumer was a good general, but it isnt the business of wikipedia to pass this kind of judgement. The sentence on his appearance in particular strikes me as PoV. --Shimbo 22:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Can you find anywhere a 'PoV' that Plumer was a bad general? Assessment is a necessary part of any encyclopaedia: the Encyclopaedia Brittanica does it all the time. An encyclopaedia that couldn't say Plumer was a competent general (and that Aylmer Hunter-Weston was an incompetent one) would be castrated and rather useless. Nunquam Dormio 06:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)