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[edit] Address

Address is 1 Parliament Street, rather than 100. The building is double-fronted, with HMRC working mostly from the 1 Parliament Street side and HM Treasury working from the 1 Horse Guards Parade side. Chris talk back 01:30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

No - the address was 1 Parliament Street from Autumn 2004 to Spring 2005, until the House of Commons pointed out it already had a building the other side of the road with the same address, at which point the address was changed to 100 Parliament Street. --Henrygb 12:23, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Varney

David Varney is no longer going to be chairman or perm sec - he is going to be advisor to Gordon Brown

[edit] Lean

Saying that HMRC has become more efficient under Lean is factually inaccurate. In fact, union bosses have published many internal documents showing how productivity has actually gone down. Maybe not the most reliable source, but in any case i've cleaned up that section to present only the facts. RomBurns 20:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question from a Yank

"HMRC is responsible for ...UK frontier protection..."; so this is the function of HMRC and not the Home Office? What sort of enforcement capabilities do they have, armed border guards, etc.? Thanks. Have Gun, Will Travel 18:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I must admit that this question has made me curious, so I have asked it over on the reference desk, where it might attract a good answer. →Ollie (talkcontribs) 00:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, HMRC is the primary agency for border protection in the UK. UK law enforcement agencies do not routinely carry firearms so they do not have armed border guards. MLA 10:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, most of the UK is on self-contained islands, so there is not much need for armed border guards. There is a land border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, but that is pretty peaceful.
Most of HMRC's border protection activities are about imports - ensuring that customs duties and VAT are collected, and that prohibited goods (such as drugs) do not enter the UK. Customs officers have very extensive powers to enforce the law - wider, in many cases, than those of the police - although a review is underway to rationalise the different ranges of powers that HMRC has in relation to the matters that used to be under the control of HMCE and those that were under the control of Inland Revenue. As far as I am aware, customs officers can be armed (although - like the police in the UK - they are not usually).
The Immigration and Nationality Directorate of the Home Office deals with immigration, but I have not seen an armed immigration officer.
Armed police, and British Armed Forces, are there too, if needed - you often see armed police at airports, for example, and I believe Customs can call on the Royal Navy to intercept suspect vessels. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, HMRC do not provide border controls, they are merely there to check imports/exports etc.. The new Border_and_Immigration_Agency does, and will get more powers soon.

[edit] Disgruntled Lemmings

Disgruntled Lemmings is an unofficial staff forum for all HMRC employees so I have added a link to it in order for people to see what is discussed.

[edit] Customs ranks

Travelling through ports and airports recently, I see that customs officers are still wearing the same uniforms, with the same rank markings, as were current before the merger. Does anyone know if the rank structure has remained the same? Is any change planned? Is the old rank template at Template:UK Customs rank insignia suitable for inclusion on this page? Timothy Titus Talk To TT 20:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

don't know which merger you mean, but to the best of my knowledge HMRC no longer employs uniformed staff at all, as the UK Border Agency took on their port of entry functions. ninety:one 21:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)