User talk:Henslee57

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The article Guerillla Marketing Talk Radio has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio

A tag has been placed on Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Wikipedia:Business' FAQ for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Kesh (talk) 20:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Kesh Im sorry Im making so many mistakes I was thrown to the wolves so to speak with this project with time restraints. I need help with th above article I have a copy if u need 2 reference it Henslee57 (talk) 22:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure why you would have time constraints on this article? The reason I tagged it for deletion is that the article read like an advertisement for the radio programming. Wikipedia is not an advertising service. If you think the subject is notable enough for an article, I'd suggest requesting it be made at WP:RA, or create a copy at User:Henslee57/Sandbox and ask some editors to look at it. Keep in mind that any facts should come from verifiable third-party sources, not sources created by people involved in the radio program. -- Kesh (talk) 23:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drawing board

Hello, Henslee57. Thank you for your note at the drawing board. You have a reply. Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


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Do you need help with something? Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, in case you didn't know, you have to put a question underneath the {{helpme}}. I have disabled it for now, feel free to re add it when you're ready to ask your question.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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NEED HELP WRITING ACCEPTABLE ARTICLE I feel a dummy I cant figure this out fast enoughHenslee57 (talk) 00:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I have moved the article to your userpage so you can edit it there (so it won't disrupt conversations on this page). Hope you don't mind.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Henslee. First off, here's my boilerplate response so I don't have to retype all the links - I've posted a more detailed response specific to you below:
The pages at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article should have most of the information you need. Before you begin, please carefully read through our policies and guidelines on notability, citing reliable sources for verification, neutrality, and formatting and article layout, where many new users commonly make mistakes. You may also want to consider checking out what Wikipedia is not, the deletion policy and criteria for speedy deletion so you know specifically what to avoid when writing your article. I hope this helps.
Now, then. Looking at your article specifically, the tone of the article makes it sound rather promotional, which appears to be why it was deleted previously. Wikipedia does not accept advertising of any kind. If you can re-write the article you have to make it have a more neutral point of view, that should help that aspect. Also, you need to include more references from sources that are not related to the subject. If you have a news article somewhere about this group, then please include it. The main requirement for notability is that there are multiple reliable third-party sources that can attest to the importance of the subject. If any of this isn't clear, or you still have questions, please feel free to put up another helpme template. Happy editing! Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Henslee57, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! --Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you be more specific on what you need help with, and please do not copy and paste the whole thing on my talkpage as it gets in the way. Perferably you could just link to it.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm....well this might take a while but you could try looking at those links above that I've provided. I'm afraid I can't help you too much, I don't really know what to start with 1st. I'll let somebody else help you.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the article being worked on to a sub-page here: User:Henslee57/Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio.
My first note is that there are no independent, third-party references. You must provide sources not associated with the company/program in order to have the article on Wikipedia. This could be reviews, news articles or other publications specifically discussing Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio. Once you have those, then we can work on the article structure. Without them, the article fails WP:V and WP:N, and would never survive on Wikipedia. -- Kesh (talk) 02:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] LOOK

As has been mentioned, the tone is extremely promotional: it's even written in second-person (telling "you" what "you" can do to interact with the show, etc.) like an ad, rather than in third person, as an encyclopedia article should be. It is not so much an article as a shameless advertisement for the show and its host: unsalvageably so, in the opinion of more than one editor. This is a complete violation of our requirement of impartiality. The other question that we face is that of whether the show is notable enough to have an article. Frankly, I see no signs of notability, not even any unsupported assertion of notability. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 2008

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Internet-bcast-stub. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Dravecky (talk) 12:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, this is not an acceptable way to hide the text from your speedily-deleted article. Your edits affected hundreds of articles. Please take greater care in the future. - Dravecky (talk) 12:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from article talk

I would like to know SPECIFICALLY HOW TO MAKE THIS ARTICLE ACCEPTABLE i need to stop wasting time what am i missing? Henslee57 (talk) 03:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Specifically? Gut it of anything that reads remotely like self-promotion or advertising. Provide citations that show this isn't some fly-by-night operation, but an established and notable thing.
At this point, I'm not seeing anything really salvageable. A Google search shows no reviews, articles or books about this program. Unless you can cite some local newspaper articles or something, it's not going to survive. And even if you can, it'd need a significant rewrite to remove the advertising-speak. -- Kesh (talk) 03:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


Self-published and questionable sources in articles about themselves Policy shortcut: WP:SELFPUB Material from self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources in articles about themselves, so long as:

it is relevant to their notability; im still learning Henslee57 (talk) 04:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, self-published material can be used but not as the *only sources*. We need to see some verifiable independent and reliable sources. Personally, I don't think this is at all notable or deserving of an article in an encyclopedia but if you can provide some reliable sources you might be able to make a case otherwise. Sarah 09:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dangerous moves

It is never a smart idea to post an e-mail address, a telephone number, or a physical address on a Wikipedia page. This is just too public a venue. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Look my name is Robert and Stacy is my employee, She's working her but off trying to do this right. If you object to something tell her specifically what it is.. please help the community and NOT HINDER IT. JUST GIVE HER A LITTLE DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE. ISN'T THAT THE GOAL HERE ???? OR YOU CAN CALL ME DIRECTLY AT THE NUMBERHenslee57 (talk) 02:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


i cant edit the page can u pls advise i cant put hangonHenslee57 (talk) 02:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: guerilla talk radio

Hmm...I'm afraid I can't help you. The protection also affects me, so until I become an admin (probably a long time away) I won't be able to edit it, sorry. I suggest you go to User talk:Orangemike he was the admin that protected the page. You should tell him why you need to edit this and if needed, ask for help in rewriting the article, because at the moment, it is going to be deleted as being advertising (or something that looks the same).--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 03:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and you can put {{editprotected}} on the talkpage and ask an admin to help you put {{hangon}} on the page and hope for some luck.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 03:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you found me because I deleted a page in your userspace, that was just a broken redirect and had no content whatsoever. Also, Wikipedia is not a place for you to host your content or edit on behalf of your employer. east.718 at 05:05, March 6, 2008

[edit] help

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My arricle is about to be deleted and the admin that locked my page wont un protect it so i can edit Henslee57 (talk) 04:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

You can consult the admin who locked it and resolve it with them, or place an {{editprotected}} template on the talk page of the article. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 04:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
The page is now only protected against edits by anonymous persons and new accounts. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Role?

Before I offer any more help, I have a question: is more than one person using your account? According to this, it appears so. Further, it appears that you're using this account in an official capacity for the radio program/station in question. Is that the case? -- Kesh (talk) 04:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

The answer to your question is no i am the only user of this id no one else has ANY authorization to add or edit except for myself . It is true that my boss created this id for my use only.As far as the last part of ur question the answer is no. I am a beginner and im paying the price dearly for not knowing what the heck im doing but i hope to be adding 100's of articles on other topics in the near future this is just my first of many articles to come and im Sorry if im pissing people off!!!Henslee57 (talk) 04:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] rude

im very sorry to offend u this was not my intent! Henslee57 (talk) 04:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

everything Im doing is in Good FaithHenslee57 (talk) 04:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption

Hey there, you just left a note on the talk page of my contact page about being adopted. I've moved it over to my main talk page, hope you don't mind. Anyways, it looks like you're running in to some difficulties figuring out Wikipedia's editing policies. I'd be happy to see what I can do to help, but I'd suggest that you stop creating any articles until you have a chance to get this all figured out.

Since you already found my contact page, you'll see there's a number of different ways you can get in touch with me. If you have a specific article you'd like to work on, we can put it in a user subpage for now and use that to help you learn about how to write an article for Wikipedia. If not, I'd still be happy to walk you through the different policies you'll need to learn.

Also, seeing some of the comments above, its important to understand that not all topics are suitable for Wikipedia articles. They need to be verifiable using reliable secondary sources and meet the notability guidelines for starters. Hope that helps. Shell babelfish 06:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

When you're thinking about re-writing, think about this just like it was a typical encyclopedia. Things need to be written in a very factual and detached voice and things should never be in first person. It might help to look at a few other articles on radio shows:

The article you were working on was transferred to your user space and can be found here: User:Henslee57/Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio. One of the first things that you need to do is make sure that the article shows why the radio show meets the notability requirements - you'll probably find Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) are going to be the most applicable. The easiest way to meet that guideline is to show coverage in multiple secondary sources -- these sources do not include material published by the company or parent company, press releases or secondary sources that are only trivial coverage (for instance if someone just printed the time of your show).

The best idea, since other editors have shown concerns about whether or not User:Henslee57/Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio meets Wikipedia's requirements is to get it up to standard in your user space and then, when its ready, have it moved back into a regular article.

I should be around tomorrow, though I will likely be in meetings all morning -- feel free to leave me a note on my talk page or drop me a note elsewhere and I'll be back to help out as soon as I can. Shell babelfish 06:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey Henslee57, just another note from me. I beleive adoption would be a very good idea to help familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policy as I see you are having trouble. I would offer a hand myself but I'm still learning too. Well I hope you find what you need.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 05:33, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome to email me, you can do so easily by clicking this link or when you're on my talk page, your toolbox (left side, lower box) will display a link called "E-mail this user" which goes to the same place. You can email any Wikipedia editor who has an email address enabled by going to their talk page and then clicking that link. Shell babelfish 13:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect of GORILLA TALK

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[edit] Deleted again

The article Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio Show has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

    • Yes, I'll be glad to look at your draft. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
      • It's less spammy, but it still has no independent sources. That's an absolute requirement. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)