User talk:Henry Flower

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[edit] Image:Men in Black Poster.jpg

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[edit] Please help-Lao language request

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[edit] Casablanca FAR

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[edit] Angkor Wat

Hi Henry, regarding you revert of the removal of the forced pixel count, what you should try is changing your preferences. Ie, click 'my preferences' then go to the 'files' tab - you can have pics as big as you want. However, if the article has a forced pixel count, this overrides all user preferences and for this reason the WP:MOS recommends against it. I don't see any compelling circumstances why this article is different.

Anyway, i have made the effort to discuss this on the talk page and would appreciate the favour returned. Also, you revert reverted a number of non-image changes, so please be a little more careful. Kind regards and happy editing. --Merbabu 09:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It's not a question of my image preferences, it's a question of how the images are displayed to the vast majority of the site's users who aren't logged-in users. HenryFlower 05:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DSCH

Hi Henry, I won't bother adding the junk FAR template, but note that I have listed the Shostakovich article for FAR. Since you put in the hours, I think the article has slipped slightly. Cheers, Eusebeus 15:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is the "nh" in the transcription of Lao names?

Hi,

Could you please tell me what this digraph means in certain Lao names, such as Bouasone Bouphavanh‎ and Bounnhang Vorachith? I searched the Internet this afternoon for some two hours but I didn't find any definite answer. :(

I have three or four ideas (but I'm not sure any of them is correct):

  • perhaps the palatal nasal ɲ, normally transcribed as ny or gn?
  • perhaps it's a normal [n] sound, the "h" is there for some orthographic convention, and it was simply transcribed very literally?
  • perhaps it's a tone-modifying "h" (but why at the end of the syllable in the first name)?
  • or perhaps there is an aspirated version of [n] in Lao?!

In fact, the "th" at the end of Vorachith is also dubious for me, since in Thai (which is quite similar) it's not possible to have a [th] sound at the end of a word – or is it a very literal transcription, without respect to the pronounced form?

Thanks a lot if you can help me! (I need it for the Hungarian transcription of state leaders of the world, as we are supposed to transcribe all names from languages with non-Latin alphabets.) Adam78 18:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

This has been a bit tricky, because I haven't been able to find these names written in Lao script (in short supply on the Internet). However I have found a reference to Bounyang Vorachith, which strongly implies to me that it is indeed the palatal nasal. The palatal nasal is certainly something that might plausibly appear in that position in a Lao name.
The th indicates that the letter is one normally pronounced as an aspirated t; I think that as you say it's not aspirated at the end of a word, but that th is used in spelling-based systems regardless of position.
Hope that's some help! HenryFlower 08:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


Thanks a lot indeed! I'm more or less assured about the Laotian names now. Yet, I don't quite understand to what extent Thai (and Laotian) transcription is actually spelling-based, e.g. Yasothon Province is written this way, although it would be written "Yasothor", if it were entirely spelling-based, wouldn't it? Adam78 19:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Transcription in both languages is certainly confusing - for each there are multiple competing systems, and many ad hoc transcriptions that follow no system at all. I think that most systems in both languages do distinguish between representation of initial and final consonants, at least for letters (like "r") that have very different values; they might not pay attention to more subtle differences such as aspirated/non-aspirated consonants, though. HenryFlower 08:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Athanasius Kircher FAR

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[edit] A new Oxbridge user box

Henry Flower...I am currently in the process of writing a user box for all of the colleges that are part of Oxbridge. This template is meant to replace your current college template. Please take a look at the work in progress and comment on it. My main concerns are college abbreviations and color choice. I am using scarf colors for the colleges. Thank you. - LA @ 17:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAR for Angkor Wat

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[edit] Education in Thailand

Check out Education in Thailand, to which I added the subsection Thaification and images cropped from the back of a series 14/15 100-baht bill [replaced in 2005 by series 15 (revised), which really is the 15th as BoT skipped #13].

  • The article is fairly new, and I'm not happy with it. For one, I don't see any mention of the military-style uniforms worn by government teachers (but not contract farangs.) MY teachers wore military-style uniforms with simulated military rank when I went to Gordon Military College (Barnesville GA), but it was a military college back then. Are uniformed teachers so common in Asia that it is not worthy of mention?
  • Another item I don't see is the inclusion of Isan culture, at least since the 1990s, in schools from primary level on up to Fine Arts colleges.
  • Another gaping void is any mention of the boarding schools for poor teens funded by Phra O. I know they exist only because there's one nearby.
  • Yet another, the Khun Poom fund for autistic and other learning-disabled children. I only know about because my dyslexic grandson and a neighbor's beautiful but extremely shy granddaughter received grants from it (he quit school and gave his back because reading gives him real headaches, and he was too far behind; she's going on to college). Speaking of girls: If you go to an Internet cafe that has no games on its computers, you'll find it filled with girls busily at work, usually in twos and threes. If you go to one with games, you're first of all struck by the stink, and of course it's packed with boys all playing games. I took them off of mine! Pawyilee (talk) 14:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments on my Talk page. The article is fairly new, and needs to "grow up". When it does, the over-long section on English language instruction should be be to an article in its own write. Meanwhile, Patiwat has objected to the subsection on "Thaification" as being a "point of view" NOT supported by a scholarly article. He also thinks the "fair use rationale" for the images cropped from a 100 Baht note isn't adequate, but he hasn't deleted anything yet. Pawyilee (talk) 11:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thaification

Copied here from Thaification's talk page by Pawyilee (talk) 10:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Title of the article

Was the term "Thaification" ever used in any of the two references to this article? It sounds like an artificial term to me, and I'd like to confirm that it is in common use in serious articles or book on Thai culture. Patiwat (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Education in Thailand

You will see that I have copied the comments to date to the Education in Thailand discussion page, to encourage contributions and improvements from more editors. The article needs more balance. Kudpung (talk) 20:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A rather belated congratulations!

The WikiProject Films Award
I, Girolamo Savonarola (talk), hereby award Henry Flower the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to WikiProject Films. Awarded retrospectively for being instrumental in making an article of the WikiProject Films core list (Casablanca) into a featured article.
Awarded 03:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)