Talk:Henry Lee Lucas
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"Otis Toole died in September 1996 from failure."- I assume this was intended to be heart failure, and I corrected it as such, but I'm not 100% positive this is correct. --L33tminion 19:38, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
An anonymous unregistered user pretty drastically changed this article from serial killing to a guy most likely wrongly convicted for serial killing. The text was greatly expanded and listed only one source. Anyone care to check to make sure that 1) the new info is accurate, 2) that the new twist isn't too POV, and 3) that the added material isn't a copyright violation of the cited book by Shelladay? DreamGuy 04:36, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
14 December I've reverted this page to an earlier version for the reasons given above, that the new version was a complete revision of the whole article based solely on a single resource (despite plenty of others being available.) There were indeed a great deal of discrepencies with Lucas's confessions and no-one doubts that he lied a great deal to police, potentially even with the authorities feeding him information. However, there is equally little doubt that he did commit more than just the the one homicide (that of his mother) such as the final two where he lead detectives to the remains of two people just listed as missing.
Significantly, Lucas started confessing to crimes that he didn't commit when authorities and the media were hyping him up as a serial killer, and similarly he only started retracting all of his confessions after people started accusing him of lying. He was a pathological liar, and just as he exaggerated his claims of guilt, he exaggerated his pleas of innocence, to suit the authorities and media (also, in the first sentence of the revised version it made a big deal of Lucas claiming that he wasn't a serial killer, as if denying being a serial killer was proof that he was innocent of such a charge.)
Like I said, Lucas confessed to a huge amount of murders that few could claim he was truly guilty of, so it would be good for the info provided in the previous version could be blended into the current one. There were some good points made. I just felt it was far to biased in that it was not from a NPOV (evidence proving Lucas's guilt in some cases was ignored) and it relied solely on one resource.
[edit] New article
This new version of the article is superb. It contains the various opinions with regards to Lucas's confessions and whether they are true or not, with plenty of sources. I wish I could write articles as neat as this. Nice work. Robert Mercer 21:18, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] LGBT?
Why is this article included in the category of LGBT serial killers? Lucas doesn't seem to have been in any of the groups covered by those initials. Am I missing something?Benami 14:32, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- I just removed the category. Unless there's any verifiable evidence that he actually was LGBT then the category should not be applied. Blackcats 10:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Judging by plenty of books on the subject, he and Toole were lovers. I don't know if this qualifies him for the category, but it's been mentioned quite a bit. Famous Mortimer 12:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Two cases?
The article states twice that Phil Ryan believed two of the confessions, yet the cases are never explained. What was the evidence in those cases? AxelBoldt 05:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Ranger Ryan generally believes Lucas in two cases where Lucas lead Ryan and others to the remains of two bodies, those of Lucas' 15-year-old traveling companion, Becky Powell, and Kate Rich, an elderly Montague County woman who took them into her home. 76.187.17.173 02:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
