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I know that George Champlin Sibley and his wife, Mary Easton Sibley founded Lindenwood College in St. Charles, Missouri. Since Sibley was only 10 when Miami University was founded, I think it unlikely that they also founded Miami University. I am wondering if there is a mixup here. Susan 15:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Know when to fold 'em

Don't know when, but he also led the Santa Fe Gamblers, CSA. (Not CFL or USFL, I don't think...) Trekphiler 08:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm not in charge, here

The article says CO at Glorieta was Col Edward Canby; I've seen Col John P. Slough (believe it or not) mentioned (in CW&AW, I think). Trekphiler 08:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking at Battle of Glorieta Pass, it says Slough was in tactical command. Who's right? Trekphiler 08:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Sibley and Canby, were the ultimate commanders of the Confederate and Union forces in New Mexico, but neither was at the battle of Glorietta. There, Slough headed the Union forces and Colonel William Scurry and Major Charles Pyron led the Confederates. Scurry was third in command below Col. Thomas Green and General Sibley, but neither of them was present at Glorietta. Sibley was in Albuquerque and Canby was even further from the battle than Sibley. Ineed, Canby had sent strict orders ahead that no one at Fort Union was to engage the Confederates in battle unless attacked, but Slough, who had never fought a battle before, went forth to meet the Confederates several miles from the fort. They kicked Slough's butt, but not before Slough reluctantly had granted permission for a group of 430 men led by Major Chivington of Colorado and Colonel Chavez of New Mexico to go around one of the Confederate's flanks. These men accidentally stumbled on the poorly protected Confederate supply wagons (talk about putting ALL your eggs in one basket!) and set them on fire. Thus the Confederates won all the battles but lost the campaign. The other major battle of the campaign was the earlier one at Valverde near Fort Craig on the Rio Grande. Both Sibley and Canby were on hand for that battle. Although the Confederates won, technically, they would have liked to have made Canby surrender Fort Craig, too, but he refused and the Confederates realized they did not have the luxury of laying siege. So they left Canby to function, and he later chased them out of northern New Mexico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milesnfowler (talk • contribs) 21:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure how to deal with the "citation needed" notice at the end of the statement that Sibley is portrayed in the movie "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly." He is portrayed, but how does one cite that? A copy of the movie itself will certainly show that. The actor who protrays Sibley has no lines and is not credited. Originally, the actor who plays the character who identifies "General Sibley" was uncredited but Internet Movie Database credits "Pardue, the Hotel Manager," as being played by Jesús Guzmán, a Spanish actor. The setting is Santa Fe, N.M., as it is being evacuated by a somber parade of Confederates under Sibley. Don't know whether this constitutes a citation but anyone who watches the movie carefully will hear Guzmán's line refering to Sibley. Milesnfowler (talk) 18:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)