Talk:Henry FitzRoy, 1st Duke of Richmond and Somerset

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[edit] First surviving son

I've heard that Henry Fritzroy was the first surviving son of Henry VIII - is this true? I couldn't find any reference to it within the article yet I have read it from several sources (all be it, mainly books, not the internet).


—Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.148.53 (talk) 12:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

"There was even, incredibly, a plan to acquire a papal dispensation for Richmond to marry his half-sister Mary and thus unite the King's illegitimate son with his legitimate daughter. "

Does anyone know of a source for this? In all my studies, I've never heard this before, and it defies credibility.

[edit] "Crocodile Tears?"

"Anne was executed on 19 May 1536, and despite the King's crocodile tears (he embraced Richmond, telling him that he was lucky to have escaped the "witch's" plans)..."

As amusing as it is to link to the entry on crocodile tears, this seems a bit opinionated. In my judgement, Henry was quite capable of believing whatever he wanted to believe, so the (uncited) tears may have been genuine emotion. Either way, it is neither here nor there in terms of a factual article. Lizbetann 23:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)