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[edit] January 1

[edit] First edit of the year

Hello, does anyone know what the first edit of 2008 was? Thanks. JetLover (talk) (Report a mistake) 00:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

In what timezone? Arthena(talk) 00:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Probably UTC. --Silver Edge (talk) 00:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, Wikipedia time is UTC and would be the natural choice.
The current Wikipedia time is:
21:09, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 (UTC)
To update time purge page cache!
According to recent changes this edit is right. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Is there any way to check Recent Changes beyond the past 5000 edits? Whenever I try only the last 50 get returned. I made an edit at 0000; I want to see where I stand. -- RattleMan 00:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know a way. I hit recent pages after seeing the question and 5000 was enough then. I kept the window. You were number 63. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for finding that out for me. -- RattleMan 01:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Another way to find out is to do a narrowing search with the oldid parameter. For example, this way I can find out that the first edit of 2007 was [1]. —Random832 21:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What atonement means

WHAT It MEENS the WERD ATONEMENT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.119.173 (talk) 00:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

See Atonement (disambiguation). --teb728 t c 00:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Typo on email

When I registered I made a typo on my email address. How do I correct it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mleebarnes (talk • contribs) 00:54, 1 January 2008

Go to Special:Preferences and make it right. --teb728 t c 01:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project Deletion?

Is there currently any system in place for suggesting/nominating Projects for disbandment/removal, like a "Projects for Deletion" or something or to recommend a project be changed to a task force under a larger project? Collectonian (talk) 01:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. What are you nominating? –thedemonhog talk • edits 01:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
The MfD page recommends marking the Project as {{Inactive}} or demoting it to a task force if possible (an example is Wikipedia:WikiProject South Carolina Highways) before deletion. NF24(welcome, 2008!) 01:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah. That's more what I'm thinking. There are several projects for TV shows that I feel need to be demoted to task forces under the Television project rather and was curious as to whether there was some method for attempting such a change. Collectonian (talk) 03:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reuse of wikipedia content?

there is a magazine (Scientific American) that has reused an image from wikipedia without proper attribution. i have written them two letters asking for a correction to be printed, but they have not responded. (it has been two months.) i was hoping to enlist the aid of wikipedia in getting a correction printed, but i don't know where to ask. any ideas where i can start? tia, 70.116.27.249 (talk) 02:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is GFDL, meaning it is free. However, depending on what the copyright of the image was, it might not have been legal. Do you know which image it is? Soxred93 has a boring sig 02:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thanks, but i already know the reuse was improper. i know wikipedia content is "free" to be reused; however, it must be correctly attributed. that is the issue.

i appreciate your eagerness, but i'm not too keen on debating copyright law here. i'm just looking for the appropriate forum to ask about the image's reuse. 70.116.27.249 (talk) 02:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

i would add that the same question (what to do about improperly attributed, reused content) has been asked several times at Wikipedia_talk:Reusing_Wikipedia_content by several different users -- but without any response. 70.116.27.249 (talk) 02:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if you might find an editor at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions who has experience with this issue. Otherwise, you might want to mail the Wikimedia foundation to inquire about it. This would seem to suggest to me that the burden of handling the situation may fall upon the contributors, but I don't know. I've never encountered this situation before. Good luck. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
The image might also have been used under the doctrine of fair use, the legal restrictions of which are far less than Wikipedia's restrictions. Mr.Z-man 03:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
This sounds like a question that only Jimbo Wales can answer, since nobody but him likely has the authority to hire a lawyer to investigate the matter or send a cease & desist. Follow Moonriddengirl's advice and also, try contacting Jimbo Wales. His contact information is on his userpage. Zenwhat (talk) 03:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Issues like this have been discussed on the Commons-l mailing list, for instance in this recent thread: [2]. Arthena(talk) 12:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Though I think this issue of reuse without attribution is getting some attention within the community, it seems for now that it's up to individuals to pursue violators on their own. In my case, I wrote a letter to the editors of SciAm asking them to run a correction, but heard no response. I wrote a second time as a courtesy, and was about to send a DMCA letter when I finally got a friendly reply (they said their mail server crashed and they lost the first letter -- go figure). They'll be printing a credit to Wikipedia in the March issue. Yay!

NB: some Wikipedia pages that almost might be useful to anyone using a search engine to find this:

And for anyone thinking of sending a DMCA take-down notice, you can find a list of "designated agents" to send your letter to at the US Copyright Office.

Lunch (talk) 22:06, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] raice strow pluping

i want to know every thing about the best way of raice strow plulping in manifactsur and ways of tretment of raise strow black liquor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.232.27.39 (talk) 02:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I appreciate that English might not be your first language, but I am having problems understanding your question. If I was to guess, I think your question might be about using rice straw as an animal feed. However, this page is the English Wikipedia help desk for questions about using Wikipedia. You might do better asking your question at the reference desk. Astronaut (talk) 02:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
You can also try a Google search, for example on "rice straw" "black liquor" pulp. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How can I request help for an article? (Nightmare)

I've been trying to improve the nightmare article, but there's one individual making it difficult. The page, for example, contains a list of the word Nightmare translated into 21 languages. This list has been removed by me and other editors, only to be replaced by this editor. Also, an expert tag was put up, only to be removed (by the same editor). Now I don't consider myself an expert, but I'd like to get as many editors to see the page as possible, because it seems neglected. How do I request experts, as well as just regular Wikipedians, to take a look at the article and try and clean it up? I don't think it's getting enough traffic to keep it up to par. Also, I find it hard to find wiki-policy; does anyone know if there's a specific policy against lists of translations? All I could find was the 'Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictonary,' which kind of covers it, but I don't think this editor will be convinced. Any help appreciated. Chris b shanks (talk) 02:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

You can file a request for comment. Though I would think that it would be best to invite both you and this other editor to the talk page of nightmare to discuss its appropriateness before this. I for one think that there is no real reason to include a list of translations - as you say, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. x42bn6 Talk Mess 02:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
A couple of places to look. :) You may want to read the dispute resolution policy to get an idea of how to handle this. Requests for Comment is one avenue. As x42bn6 says (and that policy emphasizes), the best place to start is by discussing the matter civilly on the article's talk page. As far as finding an expert is concerned, I usually head over to the list of WikiProjects. Once you've found one that seems relevant, you can make your request at the talk page of the project. Do pay attention to how much activity the talk page has. Some WikiProjects are not particularly active, and you may not find much assistance at one of those. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] usernames

(This may not be the right place to ask this so sorry if i'm being a pain...)

Why do the usernames get changed to start with a capital letter, and is there a way to request that a username be changed?

My actual username is vIQleS. Its the same name I use everywhere and, being a bit of a pedant, i'd really like it to be standard...

Cheers

vIQleS VIQleSthe2nd (talk) 02:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

It's within the MediaWiki software, I believe. You can put {{Lowercase}} on your user page and talk page and it will force the capitalisation on that page to be lowercase (see my userpage for an example), and note that User:VIQleSthe2nd and User:vIQleSthe2nd both point to the same page, so you can put that in your signature too. So you will just encounter the capitalisation occasionally. x42bn6 Talk Mess 02:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neglected articles

Is there a way to find out which of our 2 million articles have been untouched for the longest time? It occurred to me that maybe they need some care and attention. Astronaut (talk) 02:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

You can try Special:Ancientpages, though it hasn't been updated for over a year. NF24(welcome, 2008!) 03:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
You can help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Articles. Mr.Z-man 03:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Which, ironically, is starting to become abandoned.Darn. Beat me to the save page button. NF24(welcome, 2008!) 03:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] durple

I want to login in under my name (durple) but when I ask for a new password I do not get a response? No new password is emailed to me? Doug Gerrard


What's a durple?

A durple is any physical device of any size or material used to temporarily join two things together. The word can be used as a noun or verb. Some examples; a paper clip, clothespin, trailer hitch, safetypin, snaphook, harness, velcro. There is no one word in the English language that rhymes with purple so I made this one up in 1963 so poets have a whole new area to explore. Doug<email address removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.103.60 (talk) 04:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

A few questions:
  1. Are you sure that you set an email address in Special:Preferences?
  2. Do you still have access to that Email?
  3. Does your email use a spam filter? VivioFateFan (Talk, Sandbox) 08:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


Not so it doesn't rhyme
  • There is disperple
  • Also bepurple and empurple but really related words
The emperor's purple to the crowd did disperple did'st them all empurple
See - didn't have to use durple even once.
Spinningspark (talk) 12:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
You are confused with orange which only rhymes with Halib-orange.
Spinningspark (talk) 12:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Hm? Orange rhymes with mange, range, arrange, derange... -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Not really, same spelling of ending but different pronounciation. Orange is pronounced "orənj". See schwa for the correct pronounciation of ə.
It makes me cringe
Like a squeaky hinge
That there's nowt in the world
That rhymes with orange

Spinningspark (talk) 13:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't the third line be "That there's nought in the world"? Anyway, back to the original question. If you do have a spam filter, there's a way to turn it off. (Some ISP's, like mine, have a way to mark messages as "spam" and still deliver them to your inbox. Try that if you don't want to disable your filter.) In the event that you mistyped your e-mail address, you can usurp your username by creating a new account and going to WP:CHU/U. NF24(radio me!) 14:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Nought might well make a better poem, but I did mean nowt. It is a word from an english dialect spoken in Yorkshire, England. Spinningspark (talk) 00:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Though generally accounts such as durple (talk · contribs) who already have edits can't be usurped. There's somewhat of a gray area though, as it's usually left up to the discretion of the bureaucrat who reviews the request. Two minor edits may be well bellow the threshold for which problems with the GFDL emerge.--69.118.143.107 (talk) 14:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Under what conditions should politics be included in an article?

Someone suggested that I work on Private highway. At the the bottom, the "Supporters" and "Opponents" sections just seem kind of silly to me. I'd like to remove them, but I don't know what specific policy they're violating. Does anyone have any suggestions? The important fact is that there is no mainstream debate over whether to privatize roads. Zenwhat (talk) 04:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd remove both. They violate the neutrality police and are border line original research as they are mostly using sources to push a specific point and seem to be using sources out of context, both no-nos. Collectonian (talk) 12:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Pages

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone knows of a way to view pages or the history of pages which have been deleted? Because a few pages which I was interested in have been deleted and if I knew they were going to be deleted off wikipedia, I would have saved them into a word document so I was still able to view them. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 05:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Administrators can view the deleted history of pages. Leave me a note on my talk page about which pages you want and I may be able to provide the content. Mr.Z-man 08:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Sweet thanks! Will do. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 13:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
As some additional information (always beneficial in the event that Mr. Z-man should suddenly win an all-expense paid cruise to Antarctica and be unavailable when you need it ;)) you may also find other admins willing to provide copies of pages at Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles or by going through the process at Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Temporary_review. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
LOL well even if that doesn't happen, thanks heaps! :D TeePee-20.7 (talk) 13:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unblock

Why use "Requests for unblock" to find users asking to be unblocked? You can also find such users by clicking that question mark image. After all, not every page with that template is in the "Requests for unblock" category. 58.168.147.119 (talk) 08:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Wherever it is, it's important to have some fairly reliable means of quickly locating and isolating active unblock requests; people have been looking to that category for some time, while the image may not be shared between all unblock templates, may be present on other pages, or may even be changed in favor of another. Is there some specific example where an {{unblock}} (or sibling) template has failed to add a user talk page into CAT:RFU? – Luna Santin (talk) 11:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] identity

Can I hide my identity?08:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)08:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

If, by identity, you mean your IP address, all you need to do is register for a free account. See Wikipedia:Why create an account? –thedemonhog talk • edits 09:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question re page deletion

Why is that page called "Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?" when it is clearly stated that no one owns any articles? 58.168.147.119 (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

As the person who originally proposed the page title, the idea at the time was to try and be "familiar" with the person, with the idea that a more friendly, personal approach might succeed where several others over the years have quite clearly failed. Certainly no single person does own pages, but many people feel that way, at least at first; we can't expect people to become instantly accustomed to Wikipedia's attitudes and norms all at once, realisitically. Something like that, anyway. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 11:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
The word "my" allows for several meanings, in keeping with the general ambiguity of natural language. For example, a married person might refer to "my husband" or "my wife," but in most nations a married person does not own his or her spouse. Similarly, one might say "my college" to refer to the college one merely attended, rather than the college one owns. If we wanted to be technically correct, the page title should be "Why was the article that I created deleted?" Even though that is awkward, you could create a redirect from that title to the existing page. Interestingly, even this lolcat caption is more technically correct, although not grammatically correct. --Teratornis (talk) 20:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Search

how do i find a search option? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.102.205 (talk) 13:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

There's a search box in the upper-left-hand side of any page. You can not only search Wikipedia but several search engines as well. (Clicking "Go" will take you directly to a title you typed in if it exists, while clicking "Search" will search Wikipedia, whether the title exists or not.) NF24(radio me!) 13:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I'm not sure what you want but see Wikipedia:Search. It's often better to search Wikipedia with an external search engine like Google. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] β barrel --> Beta barrel

Could someone create a redirect page at β barrel with a target pointing to Beta barrel? There is a similar precedent with Beta sheet and β sheet. Thank you.--69.118.143.107 (talk) 14:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Y Done It unfortunately had to be created as B barrel due to technical limitations. However, B sheet is the same so there shouldn't be a problem. NF24(radio me!) 14:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
It really is a capital beta (Β = Β barrel) rather than a Latin B (B = B barrel). They look very similar. --h2g2bob (talk) 15:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Username trouble

Is there any way I can edit my username?If there is,do inform me.I would be more than glad.And also can you tell me how to delete my account incase i cannot edit my user name,i will have to make another account by deleting this one. Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolabel17 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Admins can change your username - ask at Wikipedia:Changing username --h2g2bob (talk) 15:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
{edit conflict) You can ask an administrator to change your username for you, see Wikipedia:Changing_username for more information. I hope this helps! Happy New Year! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 15:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
To be exact, it requires a bureaucrat (and they respond at Wikipedia:Changing username). PrimeHunter (talk) 15:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Note though that if you've only just registered, they tend to suggest you just create a new account with the correct name, because it's normally much easier than going through the fussy change username procedure. It isn't possible to delete an old account, but unused accounts are harmless and can be left on the system. • Anakin (contribs • complaints) 17:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] mayo v/s salad dressing

I am looking for info on the handling of these products in a salad dressing. Would the dressing have to be refrigerated after rebotlling--Yiannispano (talk) 15:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)JOHN SPANOUDAKIS--15:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)Yiannispano (talk)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Happy New Year! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 15:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do I find MY wikipedia page?

I just went on wikipedia and signed up and created about a paragraph titled Spencer and Carrie Storer. However when I search that exact thread nothings found. Can you tell me where I screwed up? I want to be able to tell my wife to search her name on Google and have our Wikipedia page pop up. Thanks!

I know they said no emails to but I am not sure where you'll respond to when answering this or how I'll find it. So if you want, you email me at <e-mail removed>

Thanks a lot Spencer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Storers1 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

On the top of the page while signed in, look at contributions and it should be there somewhere.  Sunderland06  16:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
It's on your userpage. Each Wikipedian gets their own page in the User: namespace. Your userpage can be found at User:Storers1 or Special:Mypage. NF24(radio me!) 16:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
An article written about yourself or your relatives will have been considered non-notable and will have been deleted by an administrator. That is the most likely possibility if you can't find it now. Lradrama 16:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
OK, it appears that NASCAR Fan24 has found the solution. ^ It is on your userpage. See his comment (2nd reply down). Lradrama 16:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that they were expecting a response here. Continued on user talk page. NF24(radio me!) 17:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] back pain

does anxiety & sress cause back pain

Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not give medical advice. You may be interested in our Back pain article, however. NF24(radio me!) 18:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing of protected page Cold fusion

Cold fusion was protected yesterday, yet today User:JzG has made two edits for which he hasn't sought consensus (and would be unlikely to get it). This seems to be against policy. Also, I don't see the page mentioned in the Requests for protection so I can't see how it came to be fully protected. How should I take these questions up? Itsmejudith (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The Administrator's noticeboard? Though JzG (or Guy, as he calls himself) is an admin, and the edits were probably in good faith. The first was correcting factual errors and the second was removing unnecessary information. Also, page protection does not need to go to RFPP; that's only a place where normal users can request protection. Admins can prudently protect pages at will, AFAIK. (e.g. several admins have fully protected their userpages so only they can edit). NF24(radio me!) 18:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Wikipedia:Protection policy does specify that "Administrators should not edit pages that are protected due to a content dispute, unless there is consensus for the change, or the change is unrelated to the dispute." If the change is not unrelated to the dispute or is against consensus, you might start by civilly approaching the admin at User talk:JzG or Talk:Cold fusion as recommended at Wikipedia:Administrator#Dealing with grievances. It is always possible (and should be presumed until demonstrated otherwise) that the change was well-intentioned if (in fact it is) misguided. That failing, I suppose you might next want to consider WP:ANI or Wikipedia talk:Protection policy for additional feedback. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I see that other editors have taken the case to the ANI. I also asked him to revert on his talk page and User:Uncle Ed independently asked him on the article talk page. Please note that the statements that he was correcting factual errors and removing unnecessary information are just his opinion. The result was to put a slightly different spin in the summary of a crucial source, so hardly uncontroversial. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
May I suggest that you weigh in at the ANI conversation to explain your perspective, in that case? I've read it over, but I lack background in cold fusion. (That's a bit of an understatement, actually, along the lines of "I have yet to master breathing water.") If you want to talk about Oscar Wilde or Sutton Hoo, I'm your (wo)man. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do that. I'm also completely out of my depth with the science, but I can see that this is a question of how to present an official report, dealing with science policy rather than science itself. I have only been involved with the article because there was a posting at the Fringe theories noticeboard and I thought I could help get it back towards NPOV. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Triple H

I am interested in adding a section to his page entitled "Controversy". I was wondering why I can't add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.208.107 (talk) 19:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The article was protected in October of 2007 following a rash of vandalism. Only users with accounts at least four days old are able to edit it. You may register for an account or, if you'd prefer, request unprotection. Hope that helps. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2023

there is pornography on 2023 can you take this off, thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.110.207 (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any pornography on 2023. Wikipedia is not censored; however, that would be an unlikely place to legitimately find material that might be deemed pornographic. Quite often, such material results from simple vandalism and can be reverted by any editor, so long as the page is not protected. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Looking back through the diffs it is clear to see there was never any pornography in the article. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDENwe need to talk.• 20:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
But looking at the templates used on that page, I find that Template:C21YearInTopic was indeed vandalised, and has since been semi-protected as a result. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Which would make sense, if it wasn't for the fact that the vandalism is now being continued by an autoconfirmed user.--69.118.143.107 (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Although it does seem to provide a nifty way to uncover the sock farm. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Preventing line break

Is there a way to prevent a segment of text to be broken into different lines. For example, if I write "1 + 1 = 2" this segment can be broken into "1" at the end of a line and "+ 1 = 2" at the beginning of the following line. In this case, I would prefer if the browser can treat the entire segment as one entity and put it at the beginning of a line if it cannot fit it at the end of the previous one. Can I do this? --KYN (talk) 20:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

An ugly workaround is <div>1 + 1 = 2</div>. Or you can simply use <math> tags, i.e. <math>1+1=2</math>. x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, there is a way. There is a tag called nbsp which prevents "wrapping". You use it like this:
1 + 2 = 2

You'll have to go into the code to see it, though. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDENwe need to talk.• 20:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

See also nbsp. The code used above looks like this:
1&nbsp;+&nbsp;2&nbsp;=&nbsp;2
You'll have to go into the code to see how I displayed it, though. ;-) PrimeHunter (talk) 22:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, --KYN (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

There is also a template called {{nowrap}}. —Random832 21:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia links in Multimap

Multimap now optionally displays Wikipedia links. Are these inserted by Multimap or by WP editors, and if so, how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhyandeva (talk • contribs) 23:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe that Multimap inserts the links. NF24(radio me!) 23:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)