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[edit] February 10

[edit] Complaint

Whilst the concept of Wikipedia is good, it is obviously open to abuse and certain users post contraversial or possibly libelous amendments.

I have tried to edit out such libel and contentious comment from your page on AstraZeneca but my deletion was reinserted by some automated Bot!

You also have a link on the AstraZeneca page to David Brennan one of their most senior directors, however that link does not go to his biography but that of some David Brennan an Irish sportsman.

These sorts of issues detract from the quality of the rest of your entries.

I have tried to report this to you via your recommended route but whilst I tried to edit your template and post it in as suggested it said it was semi-protected and prevented me from posting it in the manner you requested.

Thanks and regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.213.119 (talk) 00:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

You could always contact the person who was responsible for writing/creating the bot if you feel it's malfunctioning or editing poorly. Also, if a bot is reinserting the text, it probably means you're just deleting a bulk of it, which the bot sees as vandalism or blanking. Bring your concerns to the talk page of the article first before making wholesale changes that may be contentious. Wisdom89 (talk) 00:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
(e/c) The problem is that you're blanking vast swathes of the article, which bots detect as vandalism. Humans also detect it as vandalism, particularly when you are removing any negative information about the company, which is why you have also been reverted by at least one human editor (and I'm heading that way if someone else doesn't get there first). If you have a problem with the article, take it up on the talk page. --Kateshortforbob 00:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Articles should satisfy policies like Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research. There is no policy against reporting criticism which has been published by a reliable source. Deletion of large parts of an article with no explanation is often considered vandalism. Different routes are possible when you have a problem with an article. Which recommended route, template and semi-protection are you referring to? If you are associated with AstraZeneca then see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject), Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. Please note that Wikipedia has a strict policy against posting legal threats on the Wikipedia website (including this help desk): Wikipedia:No legal threats. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Since none of the above replies address the problem with the David Brennan link, I will. The first step is to search Wikipedia for all instances of "David Brennan", to see what we have so far:
That finds a David Brennan article which refers to the Gaelic football player, obviously not David Brennan the CEO of AstraZeneca. We do not seem to have an article about the latter David Brennan. We do have an article about his predecessor: Tom McKillop. That article also has a link to an incorrect David Brennan. To see how many incorrect links point to the David Brennan article, check its backlinks:
At the moment that only finds the one incorrect link from the Tom McKillop article; for now, I removed the incorrect link. I tried Googling to see if biographical information is available online elsewhere for your David Brennan, which might be sufficient to start a biography page about him on Wikipedia:
That finds a few links, including this cached page from Google (the original page is unavailable just now). It seems David Brennan of AstraZeneca is also a cyclist. Anyway, since you are editing from an IP address, you cannot start a new article on this David Brennan, which we could distinguish from David Brennan the Gaelic football player by adding a parenthetical qualifier: David Brennan (CEO). See Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Hatnotes for the methods we use to disambiguate articles about people who share the same name. --Teratornis (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] userbox naming

How do you name userboxes as Template:User example, Template:User userbox etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.170.126 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 9 February 2008

You would create it at Template:Userboxname, however, most userboxes are created in your userspace; if you sign up, then this is located at User:Yourusername. Since you're an anonymous user, however, you can't create pages - you will have to sign up. XENON54 | talk 02:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sidebar missing in firefox

Resolved. Mysteriously fixed itself.

Recently wikipedia has been displaying in firefox without frames. The sidebar is located at the bottom of the page. I don't have this problem in IE. I recently did the upgrade to the latest version of firefox - it was automatically downloaded - but I don't recall whether this problem first occurred before or after that upgrade. Initially I figured it was server-side and that it would be fixed shortly, so I paid little attention - but a web search doesn't show anybody else having the problem. Please, somebody save me from IE!

24.218.164.62 (talk) 02:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Here's a complicating update - I tried accessing other language wikipedias (French, Italian, etc) - and everything was arranged appropriately - wtf?

24.218.164.62 (talk) 02:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry -- I don't know! However, it seems to me there may be a slight chance that it's related to the problems some users are having in sections Wikipedia images and Cannot load images further up on this page. (If they've been archived, see archive links near the top of this page.) --Coppertwig (talk) 03:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm using the latest update of Firefox right now and don't seem to have a problem. Maybe it has to do with your screen resolution? STORMTRACKER 94 Go Sox! 12:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ummm... the problem decided to resolve itself... I don't know what changed. It didn't even involve a restart of firefox. I came back to wikipedia to see if anybody had responded to this question and wikipedia was presented properly. Must of been another case of ghosts in the machines. Thanks for your help though guys.

24.218.164.62 (talk) 18:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I need help with a vandalism deletion of my article pages

Resolved. Nothing to see here, move along please

Can someone please help me I need "Administrator" {{helpme}} action, My article is being vandalised and deleted by a hostile admin or user from the Agnosticism and Christianity discussion pages and now I cant even have a proper "Article" on its own right. If Wikipedia keeps posting web links on the internet that show "links" to this my "What to Believe" article, then the article should show up when searched and be there right? otherwise Wikipedia must stop showing links to my article on the net if this article is deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_to_believe. This Guy "Calton" is also threatening to block me from editing! The my article in question is here; http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAgnosticism&diff=190207184&oldid=189723818124.180.93.146 Fairdeal08 (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Note I have been watching this unfold and have not seen any inappropriate admin action. Jeepday (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh no, there are other "opinions" also on the same pages which I am trying to edit "add my article Fairdeal08 (talk) 02:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Actually, you need to stop using Wikipedia as a promotional forum. Go be productive or go elsewhere. — Scientizzle 02:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

What is propmotional about my article that 33% of the world (Majority)of people and Wikipedias's audience (demographic) consists of?? OK. fair enough so can Wikipedia then "stop" posting the "links" that point to this article on the web then, right! Fairdeal08 (talk) 02:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fairdeal08"

Wikipedia is not a soapbox. You might want to find some other website to push your philosophy. Corvus cornixtalk 02:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that 33% is not a majority. Regardless, keep in mind that Wikipedia's most fundamental policy is that articles are to be written from a neutral point of view. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The link that Wikipedia must stop linking to should be deleted from the web if the article is deleted, right? currently this next link shows the contribs for Fact Idiot for article titled under Talk:Agnostism "What to Believe" http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061002095349&target=Fact+idiot which links from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive140#Walled_garden_.2F_spammers which links from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive140 which links from a keyword from google search. Fairdeal08 (talk) 03:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Special:Whatlinkshere/What to believe shows that there are no links aside from the administrator noticeboards and your own user talk page that link there. I'm not sure what the purpose of the two links you just gave is, but they seem to show that you're a sockpuppet of a user indefinitely blocked for spamming, considering you placed the exact same argument on Talk:Agnosticism. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
No, don't worry about it: there is no need to delete a link just because the page it links to is deleted. Wikipedia has many links like that; they're called redlinks. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Clear soapboxing of the type prohibited by WP:SOAP - nothing really to discuss, delete on sight. --Fredrick day (talk) 03:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moving images to Commons

Hi there; could someone help me moving this and this images to Commons? Thanks! --Tonyjeff (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Note, the first image already exists on commons as Image:Palacio Alvorada commons.jpg, the second image has been transferred across. Foxhill (talk) 03:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
As an aside, you can use the CommonsHelper tool to get a bot to upload images to commons for you. This bot will also auto-fill in the descriptions based on the Image description page on it's home language. All you have to do after using it is add {{ncd}} or {{nowcommons}} to the page on wikipedia. Foxhill (talk) 04:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Please also see WP:MTC βcommand 16:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sixteen Candles

The Sixteen Candles page has been deleted except for this: ( . There is documentation of previous work that has been done for the page, but it's all gone. I don't think the page has been officially deleted; I just think someone has erased it. This makes me sad. :( I don't know how to fix it!

Thanks so much! 74.140.185.227 (talk) 02:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)liza

Are you talking about Sixteen Candles? It was recently vandalized by an anonymous user, but VoABot II repaired the damage. Check the page out now and everything should be fine. If for some reason it still looks weird to you, try clearing your browser cache. Canderson7 (talk) 02:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Yep, just some routine vandalism. For information on how to fix vandalism, see Help:Reverting. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image Copyright question

Hi, I was hoping someone could quickly clarify the image copyright rules with relation to a specific issue. I'm wanting to add a picture to the info box on Sara Bareilles, and wasn't sure if pictures in the photo section on Sara Bareilles' official website would be considered publicity photos, and therefore ok to use. Thanks --DonVincenzo (talk) 04:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

You may want to ask your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, after reviewing Wikipedia:Non-free content. I believe this used to be acceptable, but we're a lot stricter about these things nowadays. Bovlb (talk) 08:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Corrupted Files

I have just started inputting data to Wikipedia without a problem until yesterday. The following files have been successfully uploaded:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Infrastructure_Stats_0801.pdf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Ports_South-America_Brazil_Internet_List.pdf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Ports_South-America_Uruguay_Internet_List.pdf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Ports_South-America_Colombia-Internet_List.pdf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Ports_Central-America-Internet_List.pdf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Ports_South-America_Argentina_Internet_List.pdf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Ports_South-America_Chile_Internet_List.pdf

Today two files (both *.pdf) which I have tried to upload were flagged by you as corrupted files and unable to upload. What to do? I could try reformatting from their original WORD (*.doc) files to Adobe (*.pdf) files to see if that worked. Please advise.

CARLOS J. TIBBETTS Yokohama, Japan

[e-mail removed] [my e-mail address] —Preceding unsigned comment added by TIBC1 (talk • contribs) 04:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! I am sorry, that must be frustrating. I really do not know why it would say they were corrupted. But yes, try converting them to .pdf again, and then uploading again, to see if that helps. If that fails, see if there are any options in the software you are using to generate the PDF files that could be problematic, e.g., advanced formatting options / format extensions, that might not be working right. Hope this helps in some way. • Anakin (talk) 22:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What does nawassa mean

people first name what does nawassa mean —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.202.120 (talk) 06:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do I get a user page to respond in the Wikipedia search engine?

I am an aspiring international musician, and due to some recent high-publicity events I wanted to make sure that people who looked me up found accurate information. Therefore, in compliance with Wikipedia policy, I created a user page (user:dougoconnor) for this purpose. However, when I type in my name into the search box on the left, my article won't come up.

Any suggestions? Thank-you.

Dougoconnor (talk) 07:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The search engine is set to search the encyclopedia (the main namespace), and not userpages. A search for your name would find an article by that name, if one existed. However, it is advised not to create an article on yourself. See Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.
Wikipedia:User pages should not be used for self-promotion. They are for communicating with other Wikipedians for the purpose of building this encyclopedia.
I hope I've helped clear things up. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. The Transhumanist 07:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I wish you well with your music career. Google finds a few notable references, but not yet enough to be worthy of an entry in Wikipedia. If you continue on your current path I expect that one day you will be sufficiently notable to have your own article here. As the old story goes: "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" "Practice." Sbowers3 (talk) 12:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] what does AUS mean

When i read someones name an AUS appears after it what does that mean —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.121.155 (talk) 07:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It may mean many things, please see AUS disambiguation page for details. — E talk 09:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
It will usually mean they are from Australia. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] how do i make a page

how do i make a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by DACAMISTER (talk • contribs) 08:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --teb728 t c 09:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
After you do all that, if you're sure you want to create the page, see Help:Starting a new page. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! --Coppertwig (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reg : Looking for a career with Wikipedia - NewDelhi,India

Dear Wikipedia Management,

I am Chokkalingam from NewDelhi,India. I am looking for a career with Wikipedia Team either Full Time or Part Time. About me, I am an Engineering Graduate working as Software Engineer and also interested in History / Latest Updates. I am interested to enter into Journalism Industry through a career with Wikipedia.

I request to consider my profile and interest and provide an oppurtunity.

Thanks, A.Chokkalingam <phone number removed>

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.221.253 (talk) 08:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Please see the Employment page on the Wikimedia Foundation wiki for the current job opportunities. There is currently a Software Engineer position open, if this interests you. — E talk 09:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New service

Good Afternoon,

I'm Helio and I have one idea of different service for your costumers, can I get in contact with anyone?

sincerly <e-mail removed>

Wikipedia is not a business and as such doesn't have customers. It is run entirely by volunteers and is non-profit. See Wikipedia:Contact us, however, if you urgently need to contact Wikipedia or this page to contact the Wikimedia Foundation who runs Wikipedia. Note that any advertising proposal will be immediately rejected due to the fact that Wikipedia is non-profit. XENON54 | talk 13:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article's Images

how do you add an image to an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfoto (talk • contribs) 13:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

See Help:Images and other uploaded files. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
It's easy if the image is at Wikimedia Commons. Suppose the name of the image is Image:Tapestry-1-.jpg. Then you just put this into the article: [[Image:Tapestry-1-.jpg|thumb|240px|This is the caption to be displayed]] . You can leave out the "240px" or change it to a different number to change the size of the image. You can write anything in the last part to make the image caption. You can add "left" or "right" between pipe symbols | to position the image on the page. See Wikipedia:Images. --Coppertwig (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] deletion of images of PROPHET MOHAMMAD(SAS)PEACE BE UPON HIM

KINDLY DELETE THE IMAGES THAT HAS BEEN PRINTED IN THE WEB-SITE.THIS HAS BEEN FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM.LET THE SITE BE EDUCATIVE AND CREATIVE FOR ALL.BUT IT SHOULD NOT PUBLISH OR DEPICT PICTURES WHICH HURTS RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS.

REGARDS

MD ABDUR RAB BHUBANESWAR ORISSA INDIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.50.162.137 (talk) 15:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

This has been discussed numerous times in the past, and has been an area of much dispute. Wikipedia operates by consensus, so the page Talk:Muhammad/FAQ has been created to explain what editors have agreed upon. The current consensus appears to be that since Wikipedia is not censored, the images should be kept as they are. If you wish to discuss this, bring it up at Talk:Muhammad/images and explain your reasoning clearly and civilly. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandilism

Resolved. Disruptive, but not vandalism. User warned.

I want to ask that if the reply of User:Riztech here is vandilism or not? If yes then should i report it to WP:AIV? Thanks! --SMS Talk 15:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Uncivil? Yes. Inappropriate? Clearly. Vandalism? Probably not. Unless he responded in that way in an intentional attempt to harm Wikipedia, it's not vandalism. I recommend reminding him on his user talk page to be civil and to assume good faith. BLP issues can get people angry, and I think that's all this is. One thing that might help is giving him some time to cool down to avoid any more angry responses. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
OK! got it! thanks! --SMS Talk 15:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hm, now that I look at his talk page (which I didn't notice before), seems he has a recent history of disruptive activity on that page. He got a last warning yesterday, so if he's disruptive again, I'd recommend reporting him to AIV. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 16:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I found an article that should be delted

Resolved. Article deleted.

It sound like an advertisement, I think somebody just copied it off of a website. I know that the tag {{delete}} is what you use to set up a page for deletion. But how do I post a reason for deletion with it? Superstarwarsfan (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Put in {{tl}} so that you aren't nominating the Help desk for deletion. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I use {{db|reason}} which is the shortest method. Replace reason with, predictably, your reason. However, "I think somebody just copied it off of[sic]a website" makes me think it could be considered a copyright violation - there's {{db-copyvio}} for that. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you check to make sure I did it right? I'm trying to learn to use Wikipedia better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Sapp Superstarwarsfan (talk) 16:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
The article has been deleted as you requested, so I believe this question is resolved. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 18:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Was this edit vandalism?

One of the pages I occasionally edit had this edit done earlier today. I'm a little suspicious because the korean link now appears to point to a non-existant article (I see a red link where in the english Wikipedia is the "article" tab). I don't read Korean and don't have the Hangul font installed, so I can't tell and can't translate it. Can someone who knows the Korean language take a look and let me know if the change was an improvement on the old link. Many thanks. Astronaut (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

While I can't read Korean, I think that the previous version was better, as it actually pointed to an article; the new version doesn't seem to. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 18:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I don't know Korean either, but there shouldn't be an interwiki red link at all, and the article it previously pointed to was clearly the correct article. I've undone the edit, but I don't think it was vandalism. More likely just a mistake. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 18:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] tournament brackets

How do you enter team names and scores in a tournament bracket format? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manute555 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia has three bracket templates: {{4TeamBracket}}, {{8TeamBracket}}, and {{16TeamBracket}}. All have usage instructions on its template talk page (click "discussion" at the top of the template page). XENON54 | talk 20:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Alternatively, if this was not a Wikipedia question but a knowledge question, and you need help with arcane matters such as how to assign tournament bracket numbers to players, number of byes and how to place byes on double elimmination charts and the like, drop me a line at my talk page and I'll help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adding Pictures

How do I place images in a article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rem Nightfall (talk • contribs) 21:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

  • If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|right|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, right with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
  • If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Now how do I put it into the article. I already uploaded it, but I don't know what to do next. Sorry if I'm a bit slow with this stuff.Rem Nightfall (talk) 22:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)Rem Nightfall

That's the first part of User:Fuhghettaboutit's answer: given an image file, say Image:Example.jpg, to make it appear in an article you type [[Image:Example.jpg|right|The caption for the image.]]. This is a fairly basic way of doing it, and to understand the control you can have over the image it's best to read the picture tutorial. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikilinking a edit page

I am wanting to wikilink a edit page, but cannot figure out how to. I know I could use external links [ ] to accomplish this task, but I rather use wikilinking, if possible. Thanks, PGPirate 21:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The name of any article on this site can be linked by placing doubled bracktes around it. [[Wikipedia]] becomes Wikipedia. If you want a link to an article to say something different than the article name you pipe ("|") the link like so: [[Wikipedia|encyclopedia]] becomes encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
If I understand you correctly, you want to wikilink to an "edit" link. I don't think this can be done, you have to use external links so February 10. Woody (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I’ll point out that the external link symbol can be turned off with <span class="plainlinks">link</span> which will make the link appear as February 10. —Travistalk 22:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Travis. I didnt want the EL symbol on there. PGPirate 22:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Coding help

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I have developed a template, and in one case it gives a very odd output. I can not figure out what I'm doing wrong. It is most likely something simple, but I can not understand it. To the right is one example. The two boxes should look identical. MrKIA11 (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Special:ExpandTemplates might help you to find the problem. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that is very helpful. The problem is that now I am even more confused, because the box works fine on that page. MrKIA11 (talk) 12:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
With the new preprocessor a conditional "|p=q" is not allowed in a template call (not even with {{!}}); make p or q conditional instead.--Patrick (talk) 16:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
With e.g. {{t1demo{{!}}1=p}} "Result" of ExpandTemplates contains a correct template call that has failed to expand. In that case the rendering of Result shown in Preview of ExpandTemplates is not the same as the rendering of the input.--Patrick (talk) 16:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
How do I make something conditional? MrKIA11 (talk) 17:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
E.g. {{archive list|links={{{links|30}}}}}.--Patrick (talk) 00:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh OK. Thanks for all the help, MrKIA11 (talk) 01:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'm sure I saw a project that has people check out new articles.

But I can't find it. Can someone provide a link? Superstarwarsfan (talk) 23:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject New page or Wikipedia:New pages patrol. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)