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[edit] November 4
[edit] Creating keyword rerouting
I am trying to get the phrase(s) "sea witch" [and/or "sea witches", "octopus-mermaid", "octo-mermaid", etc.] to be automatically redirected to the Wikipedia article cecaelia when doing a general Keyword search. How do I do this without creating a separate article for it? And what is the code I use to create this redirection? (I am not a member of Wikipedia at this time.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.166.86.99 (talk) 02:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Make a page with the text
#REDIRECT [[Cecaelia]]
. See more at Wikipedia:Redirect. You must currently be logged in to make a page. PrimeHunter 03:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New article not appering in search
Hi Everyone:
I tried to research further, but seem to be strking out.
My understanding is that all articles should appear immediately. I have authored the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._J._Trolio
When I do a generic searches 'Trolio', 'V.J. Trolio', it says there is not article. I even double-checked 'My Contributions' and it is there.
Does anyone has any ideas?
Thanks.
DAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danimal59 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- You must wait for Wikipedia search to index the article. The "Go" button (activated by pressing Enter in the search box) works right away but only when the title is an exact match. PrimeHunter 03:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks...I thought it could possibly be an 'indexing' thing, but wasn't sure.... Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danimal59 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How to leave message for unpaged user?
Hi, I went to the article in the Hi Everyone section and would like to leave a message for the user on their talk page, but there isn't one. Is it okay for me to create one? Julia Rossi 04:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what talk pages are for. --Bfigura (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks – I just thought it was an invasion if it's the User's. Cheers Julia Rossi 04:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kaije Armena, Jr.
Kaije Armena (Kaiji Arumena) is an Japanese of Filipino descent who Illustrator, He was born on November 22, 1992. he was 15. He is an Illustrator and Web developer, Home Town is Legazpi city, Philippines. He like in Tokyo, Japan.
[edit] Oscar Sanchez
I created a page called Oscar Sanchez. I created the page two weeks ago. Yesterday I did some editing on the page. Today, the page is not there. I checked the deleted page log and Oscar Sanchez is not there. What happened to the page I created? When I did a search for Oscar Sanchez, I am redirected to other Oscar Sanchez. I have created another page that was deleted, however, I was alerted to the reason it was going to be deleted and the page is in the deleted log.
Please let me know what happened to the page I created named Oscar Sanchez. Again, it is not in your deleted log.
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarRSanchez (talk • contribs) 05:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The article is still there. I think you forgot to use the accents on the o and a. Did you mean Óscar Sánchez? I'm also afraid this article does not appear notable, so I requested speedy deletion. — jacĸrм (talk) 06:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Add Comment to Citation within a Reference as part of a Wiki Article?
I would like to add a comment to a Citation. For example, a one or two sentence description of a Journal article. I was thinking of overloading location = in order to to do this. My citations are within a reference block <ref>....... </ref> Using Location = does not work in this context.
Any Advice Out There? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ITBlair (talk • contribs) 06:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- These are usually meant to be summed up in |title= and |work=. A one or two sentence is a rather long comment to have in a citation. My suggestion would just be to put who the journal is by, a date, and the basics. — jacĸrм (talk) 06:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- If you are trying to include a quotation to a reference, you could use the "quote" parameter, but that is for quotations only, not comments. --Silver Edge 08:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have seen long commentary in a reference. They way they did it was to put it just before the /ref after the closing braces ( }} ) of the cite. Sbowers3 13:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] creating new pages
How do I Create new pages?
Zeno Boy 08:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Silver Edge 08:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Administrator Review of an Article
How do I go about submitting an article for review by an administrator? I have an article that I believe needs looked at by one, due to disputes over article content. Kennedy (talk) 09:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Administrators are no better content reviewers than other regular editors, and an article would benefit the most if reviewed by an editor who has knowledge in the subject. Thus, if you have a page that needs outside input of other users, you might follow the process of Wikipedia:Requests for comment or Wikipedia:Third opinion. :) Best, 10:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeaceNT (talk • contribs)
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- If the article was part of an active wikiproject then they might be of some help. Projects like milhist/maths/bio/Anime are very active and have a large knowledge base and might be able to help you. If talking does not work then the mediation cabal could help you. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for some further reading. Woodym555 11:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- What the article needed was a review of the dispute, not a review of the content. One user reverted 7 times in one day - from 14,000 bytes down to 300 bytes. He complained that it was badly written. Other users challenged him to improve it, not delete it to almost nothing. Someone finally issued that user a 3RR warning.
- KennedyBaird, if a user reverts 3 times in one day, then warn him about the WP:3RR policy. See {{uw-3rr}}. If he continues to revert, then write a report at WP:AN3. If you need help formatting the report, then just ask for help. Sbowers3 14:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for all the advice. Thanks for looking into it for me Sbowers3. Kennedy (talk) 21:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Suggestion
My thanks and best regards to the team of Wikipedia. Here is a suggestion you may like to consider, which I experienced and others also.
Kinldy put "sound effects in spelling" some words which are commonly mis-spelled. In other dictionaries, there is a sound icon which reflects the sound of a word.
Best regards. SarwarMazumder —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarwarmazumder (talk • contribs) 11:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- You might want to try Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). What you have to remember though is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. You might want to try wiktionary] which is a dictionary. Hope this helps. Woodym555 12:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wiktionary has pronunciation sound-clips - why don't you look there? Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and most people associate sound-clips with a dictionary. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 12:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sarwarmazumder does have a pont, though I think that would have limited use here. I could see it being helpful for the pronunciation of foreign terms if they are the title of an article or a subject header, for example. Jeffpw 12:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wiktionary has pronunciation sound-clips - why don't you look there? Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and most people associate sound-clips with a dictionary. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 12:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Richard Prescott
the author Richard Prescott Officially Dead —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.194.69.6 (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but what is your question? This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. If you have a general knowledge question, you may want to try the Reference desk. Otherwise, can you please elabourate? NF24(radio me!Editor review) 13:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
How do i make a sugg. on having a program on tvland or nick at night (Family W/Kristy McNichol)I would really like to see it but have no clue who to contack to suggest
[edit] changing article name
How do you correct an article name? The name is incorrectly spelt and I can't modify the article name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.140.27 (talk) 14:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- What is the article? You rename an article by moving it, but you have to be a registered user to do that. Sbowers3 14:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
It is entitled 'Iyad Allawi' when it should actually read 'Ayad Allawi' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.140.27 (talk) 14:09, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thank you very much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.140.27 (talk) 14:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I moved it. Even before you replied, I looked at your contribs and guessed that it might be Iyad Allawi. The subject himself and most of the refs spell it Ayad so I moved it. First time I've ever done a move but the motto here is be bold so I did it and it worked smoothly. Sbowers3 14:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The mystery country
is argentina the mystery country for history —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.200.58 (talk) 15:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Your question appears to be a homework question. We apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them. If there's any other way we can help, feel free to let us know. Thanks! GlassCobra 15:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- In full agreement with the above message, you may find our article on Argentina useful and come to your own conclusions.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, and for factual questions you want the reference desk. Hut 8.5 15:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- In full agreement with the above message, you may find our article on Argentina useful and come to your own conclusions.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Categorization
I want to categorize an article I have written.
I have found a great deal of discussion about categorization.
What I cannot find is a tab or box which says:
"Click here to enter a category for this article" or something similar.
P.S. - I have no idea what this means:
Please sign your question using Cycleman 16:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC).
Signed, Cycleman 16:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC).
- Hey Cycleman! For help putting an article into categories, check out Help:Category#Putting an item in a category. As for signing, that just means four tildes (~~~~), which produces your name and the date after your post. Hope this helps! GlassCobra 16:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- (E/C):Hi, when you use the ~~~~ your signature is added by the software, as you can see above. With regards to categories, to add an article to a category, e.g. the "fluffy creatures" category, you would edit an article and enter [[Category:Fluffy creatures]] at the bottom. It will be added to category when the article edit is saved. See the Wikipedia page on categorization for more info. Woodym555 16:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- (after EC}:Hi Cycleman. The way to categorize an article is to add categories it fits into at the bottom. A random example: [[Category:Chemists]]. To make it sort in the category by last name, you would type [[Category:Chemists|Doe, John]]. For multiple categories, however, instead of piping the name, you can add above the list of categories a single template which sorts into all of them: {{DEFAULTSORT:Doe, John}} To find such categories, you can browse Wikipedia:Categorical index, but I find the best way is to find an article on a similar topic to provide an example to use. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- (E/C):Hi, when you use the ~~~~ your signature is added by the software, as you can see above. With regards to categories, to add an article to a category, e.g. the "fluffy creatures" category, you would edit an article and enter [[Category:Fluffy creatures]] at the bottom. It will be added to category when the article edit is saved. See the Wikipedia page on categorization for more info. Woodym555 16:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fred Thompson article
The Fred Thompson article has been locked indefinitely and the talk page says that it will be locked until the election is over. I believe this means the administrator means to keep the article locked until after November 2008. Could someone help unlock this article. Remember 16:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- The user who is writing on the talk page about locking forever is engaging in subtle irony. He is not the admin who locked the page and is not in fact an admin at all. Sbowers3 18:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Leave your request on WP:RFPP under the requests for unprotection heading. Administrators there will be happy to discuss it with you. Woodym555 16:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gaster could use some looking at
Gaster used to be a surname redirect page, but it's also an anatomical term referring to the "abdomen" of Apocrita Hymenoptera (ants wasps and bees). Probably one of the two functions should be moved to a disambiguation page, but I'm not sure which one. Move the anatomy to Gaster (insect), or the surnames to Gaster (surname)?
Advice (or just plain action) from someone more experienced would be appreciated. 71.41.210.146 16:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've moved the surname information to Gaster (surname). The anatomical use of the word remains at Gaster. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 17:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks, looks good! 71.41.210.146 20:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Always happy to help. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 20:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, looks good! 71.41.210.146 20:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] to create new page for a new place
hi, 17:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)i want to create a page about my native place OBRA(Aurangabad) ,bihar, INDIA220.227.149.135 17:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC). so how can i create this page? Guide me as soon as possible.
- First, you need to create an account. Then, just type in Aurangabad in the search box, and click go, and hit "create a new page". Or, alternatively, come back here after creating an account, and click on the following link: Aurangabad. Hope this helps~! 17:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartyllama (talk • contribs) Edit: Apparently, the page already exists. And why in the world did sinebot do that? 17:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- SineBot saw you didn't sign properly with a user page link. The question appears to be about the place Obra in Aurangabad district, Bihar in India. There is already another Obra, India. I'm not sure about the naming convention here but Obra, Bihar may work. You can create an account and make the page - or wait to Friday where anonymous page creation may become allowed. PrimeHunter 20:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] how do I attcah a photo to my edits article page?
Dear Editor,
I am trying to edit an artcle (DROPme)and would like to attach a relevenat jpeg image. I have tried copy& past but that doesn't seem to work.
Any suggestions, redirections please.
Thanks
Tinje —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinje (talk • contribs) 18:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not accept external images. If you want to use your image in an article, you'll have to upload it. Make sure it complies with the image use policy, though. GlassCobra 18:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Read more: Wikipedia:Images
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- Don't forget that to embed the image in the article, you must type [[Image:Example.jpg]]. You can also type [[Image:Example.jpg|Xpx]] to shrink or enlarge the image to X by X pixels. For example, typing [[Image:Example.jpg|20px]] will display the image in a 20 by 20 pixel space.NF24(radio me!Editor review) 18:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Also, be sure that the image is not copyrighted. Corvus cornix 00:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What to do about repeated addition of copyrighted text?
The article
is under frequent attack by various accounts (first an IP account from Australia, and then by various SPAs). What can we do about this?- Checkuser is a big effort for little and short lasting effect. The user will just keep creating new accounts.
- Temporary semi-protection is not possible, since none of the conditions of WP:PROT apply. Moreover, it only would work indirectly, hurting our prospect of improving this stub, and not addressing the problem at the root.
- AN/I does not apply, since it doesn't specifically require admin action
- Just keep reverting. So far, I'm the only one. And frankly, I feel we all have better things to do here than repeat doing the same thing over and over again.
I am a bit frustrated, not just about the obnoxious user, but also about our bureaucracy that makes it so hard to find a way to deal with this. — Sebastian 19:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- You could request the page be fully protected, but if you feel the protection policy doesn't apply, then there's no reason not to bring it up at AN/I; if the admins can't help you (which I find odd in this case - they take copyvios very seriously), then you could try Dispute resolution. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 19:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Thank you. Full protection would even be worse - that would be like shooting a rat with a cannon! I am trying to avoid AN because I know how much backlog we have in many areas that do require admin action, so I don't want to compound the backlog by add some that shouldn't require admin action. That would only hurt Wikipedia overall. Moreover, I just don't know what else an admin could do, anyway. — Sebastian 20:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- This seems to me to be a warn and then take to WP:AIV issue. The first time a copyvio is posted you warn ({{nothanks}} or {{uw-copyright}}). Once warned and then ignored, further posting of the material by the same user or IP is vandalism (which is not subject to 3RR by the way). Just follow up in an escalating series as you would for any other form of vandalism ({{uw-vandalism2}}, {{uw-vandalism3}} and {{uw-vandalism4}}). Once the material is added after a final warning, report for the block. I'm not saying this is not without its slowness and frustrations, and of course it's subject to gaming (for example if they wait before posting again it's not within the technical requirments of AIV), but once it becomes complex, it is a proper AN/I issue. But you likely won't get far if you haven't taken the steps to warn first.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Full protection would even be worse - that would be like shooting a rat with a cannon! I am trying to avoid AN because I know how much backlog we have in many areas that do require admin action, so I don't want to compound the backlog by add some that shouldn't require admin action. That would only hurt Wikipedia overall. Moreover, I just don't know what else an admin could do, anyway. — Sebastian 20:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I didn't think of AIV, because it's not really vandalism. Still, that might be a good idea. There have been several warnings like the ones you describe already. I really don't care that terribly about this one article. My question was only to find out if there is a way to fight such attacks in a way that aren't more work intensive than the attacks themselves. It's easy to create a new account and to revert a change, but if those who want to defend Wikipedia have to jump through several hoops for each attack, then that's just no solution. I have to leave now, but if there's really no straightforward way that I overlooked then maybe I'll post it on the village pump later. — Sebastian 21:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I sympathize with your time cost versus benefit argument. Note though that continued copyright violations after a warning is indeed vandalism, and of a pernicious stripe.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanations and your sympathy. The problem is that we can't say it's repeated until we checkuser. I decided, unsatisfactory as it may be, it's not worth my time to pursue this any further and I'll just unwatch that page. I don't want to hog the help desk either, so if anyone wants to keep discussing this, please just drop me a note. — Sebastian 02:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- PS: I just noticed that the same applies to the Chris Bosse article: [3]. But I'll stay with my decision to practice WP:DISENGAGE and I'm not reverting that; maybe someone else wants to do that. — Sebastian 02:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- I sympathize with your time cost versus benefit argument. Note though that continued copyright violations after a warning is indeed vandalism, and of a pernicious stripe.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't think of AIV, because it's not really vandalism. Still, that might be a good idea. There have been several warnings like the ones you describe already. I really don't care that terribly about this one article. My question was only to find out if there is a way to fight such attacks in a way that aren't more work intensive than the attacks themselves. It's easy to create a new account and to revert a change, but if those who want to defend Wikipedia have to jump through several hoops for each attack, then that's just no solution. I have to leave now, but if there's really no straightforward way that I overlooked then maybe I'll post it on the village pump later. — Sebastian 21:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Oscar Sanchez (2)
created a page titled Oscar Sanchez. The page was running for about 2 weeks with no problems. Yesterday, I went to edit my page and if was not there. I received no notice of deletion and no explanation. I checked the deletion log and my page was not in the deletion log. I don't know what happened to my page. I thought that someone from the outside deleted my page. I created the page again last night. Today I received a notice that I was vandalizing the page Oscar Sanchez page. I don't know what is going on. My user name is OscarRSanchez I was not vandalizing Oscar Sanchez. Can you please let me know what to do. Is there something I can do different so that my page does not get deleted again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarRSanchez (talk • contribs) 20:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- You created your article by modifying a disambiguation page. That is not the correct place to create an article. You can create it using hatnotes at, for example, Oscar Sanchez (entrepreneur). NF24(radio me!Editor review) 20:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Read more: Wikipedia:Disambiguation, Wikipedia:Hatnotes
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- Please note that if you were to create an article about yourself, it would be a conflict of interest and would probably be deleted as you, unfortunately, do not pass the notability guidelines at this point. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 20:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Read more: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Notability
- I guess your first "created" page was this edit to Óscar Sánchez which also overwrote a disambiguation page instead of creating a new page. Oscar Sanchez redirects to Óscar Sánchez, so you may be at the latter when you think you are at the former. PrimeHunter 21:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Oscar Sanchez - 2
I did a search for Oscar Sanchez and received a message that there were no pages with that name. I was received a promp that I can create a page for Oscar Sanchez. I did. I created the page and spent alot of time and efford editing the page. The page was running ok until yesterday. When I tried to go into Oscar Sanchez to add some more information, I found another page. I checked the deleted loge and the page was Not there. I als received no messages about the intent to delete. I thought that someone from the outside deleted my page. I recreated the page. Now Iam getting a notice the I modified a disambiguation page. The answer I received is below. I created the page first. When you did a search for Oscar Sanchez, my page came up. I am not Oscar Sanchez. I work for Oscar Sanchez and he is a notable person in South Florida. Several articles were written about him in our local news papers. Maybe I have made mistakes creating his page, but I did not have a chance to correct the mistake. Can you please investigate this matter. The page I created was created first. Then it became a disambiquation page. Please let me know what I need to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarRSanchez (talk • contribs)
- You created your article by modifying a disambiguation page. That is not the correct place to create an article. You can create it using hatnotes at, for example, Oscar Sanchez (entrepreneur). NF24(radio me!Editor review) 20:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- It appears the above reply was pasted from somewhere, but let me just expand a bit: I realize Wikipedia might seem confusing at first, (please click on the blue words to read the policy/guide they refer to). Wikipedia is not like other sites you may have come across. First, it is an encyclopedia. What this means, is that it is not MySpace, or FaceBook, or a place to host personal webspace, or a place where editors can make articles about anything they wish. Wikipedia has Core policies, such as neutrality, notability, verifiability, etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Wikipedia must demonstrate notability (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have reliable, third-party sources (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must cite those sources to verify it is true. As mentioned, you cannot just over-ride a disambiguation page, with your own content. Additionally, looking at the version you put up, I'll have you note again the biography notability requirements, it would appear your article would not meet those requirements. I could, of course, be wrong, but you'd need to provide reliable third-party sources to verify your notability. However, and perhaps most importantly, your username would suggest that you are the person you were writing about. Wikipedia has a conflict of interest guideline that states you should not create or edit articles about yourself, your company, your family, friends, etc., as you'd likely be unable to do so neutrally. If you are notable enough, and article would be created by other editors. There are many, many business owners out there who would not meet the notability requirements for an encyclopedia, so please don't take this as saying you're not important, the two are not the same thing. It is just that Wikipedia uses the same standards as other printed encyclopedia, so you may wish to review all the policies and guidelines linked here. I hope that helps to explain the issues! Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 21:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Also previously answered here. Ariel♥Gold 21:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- And also answered in the section above. Please stop creating new sections about the same. Click the edit link to the right to add a comment to an existing section. There is clear proof that you changed a disambiguation page here - and you probably also did it before logging in here. PrimeHunter 21:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Also previously answered here. Ariel♥Gold 21:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- It appears the above reply was pasted from somewhere, but let me just expand a bit: I realize Wikipedia might seem confusing at first, (please click on the blue words to read the policy/guide they refer to). Wikipedia is not like other sites you may have come across. First, it is an encyclopedia. What this means, is that it is not MySpace, or FaceBook, or a place to host personal webspace, or a place where editors can make articles about anything they wish. Wikipedia has Core policies, such as neutrality, notability, verifiability, etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Wikipedia must demonstrate notability (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have reliable, third-party sources (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must cite those sources to verify it is true. As mentioned, you cannot just over-ride a disambiguation page, with your own content. Additionally, looking at the version you put up, I'll have you note again the biography notability requirements, it would appear your article would not meet those requirements. I could, of course, be wrong, but you'd need to provide reliable third-party sources to verify your notability. However, and perhaps most importantly, your username would suggest that you are the person you were writing about. Wikipedia has a conflict of interest guideline that states you should not create or edit articles about yourself, your company, your family, friends, etc., as you'd likely be unable to do so neutrally. If you are notable enough, and article would be created by other editors. There are many, many business owners out there who would not meet the notability requirements for an encyclopedia, so please don't take this as saying you're not important, the two are not the same thing. It is just that Wikipedia uses the same standards as other printed encyclopedia, so you may wish to review all the policies and guidelines linked here. I hope that helps to explain the issues! Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 21:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Articles of a Prince
The articles that I posted were deleted and the reason was because they weren't significant, Last time I checked anything that is written in this encyclopedia is NO FACT And can't be trusted, so who are you people to say what is or isn't important? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kreedskulls (talk • contribs) 21:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- It is too bad that you're under that impression. Please review the core policies of Wikipedia, to understand why verifiability, notability (importance), and neutrality are some of the basics that determine if an article is deleted. I think you'd find that the majority of articles on Wikipedia, especially the good and featured articles are highly accurate, well sourced and cited, and demonstrate the dedication of the millions of people who work to create this repository. Ariel♥Gold 21:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- We here at wikipedia have some rules on what is notable or not. If your article fails these, then it will be deleted. I would suggest you read, and follow our notability guideliness. Also, only a small amount of our edits here are not true. The majority of what is written here is true. Cheers!--SJP 21:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Making a page easier to search for
Is there any way to add a keyword for a page to make it easier to find? For example, I was searching to find out what a wad cutter is and typed in the search wad cutter. This didn't come up with anything, however when the word is mispelled as wadcutter, it directs you to the wadcutter page. I want to discuss changing the spelling on the page before I edit it, so is there at least a way I can make it easier to find the page through the search engine? Flash176 21:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Should the page be titled "Wad cutter" or "Wadcutter"? If it is the first, then a user can move the page to the correct title. If it should be "Wadcutter", we could create a redirect page titled "Wad cutter" that would redirect to "Wadcutter". Which is correct? — Soleil (formerly I) 21:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- First of all, please sign your name by clicking that tab on the top that looks like a signature. It is okay that you did not since you did not know to:) Are you sure that you did not spell the word wrong? That could be the problem. As for doing something to the search engine, you can make a re-direct to the article. For an example, someone may look up The Group Hamas and have nothing come up. If you add a re-direct to Hamas, then it will bring them to the Hamas article. Happy editing!--SJP 21:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- "Wadcutter" has 88700 Google hits [4] and "Wad cutter" only has 15400 [5]. This indicates "Wadcutter" is the more common name and should be used per Wikipedia:Naming conventions. I have created a redirect from Wad cutter to Wadcutter. PrimeHunter 21:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Sorry, I was just adding my name when you edited. :) Some people spell it as 1 word, but I believe most, including the companies that make the ammo, spell it as 2 words. But my question is until the spelling of the page is changed(if it ever is), is there any way to get the search to show that page? Because if you do a search for wad cutter, nothing comes up for that page, I had to find it some other way. But I just saw PrimeHunter's edit, so it's a moot point. Thanks, guys. Flash176 21:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- If there is, I assume only a developer will be able too. Since I am not a developer, I cannot help you. Sorry:(--SJP 00:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- "Wadcutter" has 88700 Google hits [4] and "Wad cutter" only has 15400 [5]. This indicates "Wadcutter" is the more common name and should be used per Wikipedia:Naming conventions. I have created a redirect from Wad cutter to Wadcutter. PrimeHunter 21:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- First of all, please sign your name by clicking that tab on the top that looks like a signature. It is okay that you did not since you did not know to:) Are you sure that you did not spell the word wrong? That could be the problem. As for doing something to the search engine, you can make a re-direct to the article. For an example, someone may look up The Group Hamas and have nothing come up. If you add a re-direct to Hamas, then it will bring them to the Hamas article. Happy editing!--SJP 21:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Articles Copied from Another Website
What is the proper procedure for dealing with articles that may have been directly copied from another website? One article I noticed is partially written in 1st person as if it was copied off the company website. -Zomic13 21:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- What is the article? It may have copyrighted text, it may be written like an advertisement, it may have a non-notable subject. The procedure depends on the circumstances. PrimeHunter 22:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yellow Book (directory) -Zomic13 22:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. It was User:Yellowbookdenton who added "Today we publish 835 directories ..." [6]. It's the only edit by that account and a copyright violation of http://www.yellgroup.com/english/aboutyell-yellowbookusa, so I have reverted it. PrimeHunter 22:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Websites are generally copyrighted unless otherwise stated. In this case the original page directly says "Copyright 2007 Yell Limited", and http://www.yellgroup.com/english/sitetermsconditions says: "No materials from this website may be copied, downloaded, reproduced, broadcast, shown or played in public, republished, uploaded, posted, stored, transmitted or distributed in any way or adapted or changed in any way." It was probably somebody from the company who added it to Wikipedia for promotion (violating Wikipedia:Conflict of interest) but that doesn't change that it must be removed. PrimeHunter 22:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. It was User:Yellowbookdenton who added "Today we publish 835 directories ..." [6]. It's the only edit by that account and a copyright violation of http://www.yellgroup.com/english/aboutyell-yellowbookusa, so I have reverted it. PrimeHunter 22:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yellow Book (directory) -Zomic13 22:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] adding a biography
how does one do this please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.212.48.40 (talk) 23:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 23:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] High contrast skin option?
Hi - don't know if this is already possible with regular wikipedia options but I was wondering if there is a skin/way to view wikipedia with inverted colours (ie, white text/black background). I view wikipedia a lot and find the black text/white background to be very jarring on my eyes after a while.
I read somewhere that when looking at a reflective surface (like a computer screen) it is easier for the human eye to read light text on a dark background.
Rokos 23:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- An inverted colours skin is not built-in to Wikipedia. You can create your own skins (I think), but I'm not familiar with the skinning process other than the fact that you must know at least some CSS. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 23:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Is there somewhere (like an accessibility page) that I can request one be made? It would be a great help for my eyes :)Rokos 00:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there, you might want to have a look at M:Gallery of user styles to see if theres maybe a style there you could use. Hope this helps Andyreply 00:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Also WikiProject Accessibility might be the people to ask. -- DatRoot 00:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there, you might want to have a look at M:Gallery of user styles to see if theres maybe a style there you could use. Hope this helps Andyreply 00:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Is there somewhere (like an accessibility page) that I can request one be made? It would be a great help for my eyes :)Rokos 00:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, guys. I don't really know how to do the CSS coding but I did lodge a suggestion on the Accessibility page.Rokos 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)