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[edit] November 12

[edit] How do you actually ADD an article?

Like, where on the site is the button that lets you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Panicatthedisco (talk • contribs) 00:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page. You might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Andyreply 00:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Just type in The name of the new article (can be done by a host of ways) and then start typing. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 00:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] stpm trial exam question

can ketone react with chlorine?thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angweikeat (talk • contribs) 01:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Try asking at the reference desk. The help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. GlassCobra 01:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox actor edit request

My {{editprotected}} requests seem to languish (see Template talk:Infobox actor#Edit requested 7-Nov-2007). What and when is the next reasonable step to advance the process? Conrad T. Pino 01:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

You can contact an administrator directly if you feel the need to. Explain your position, why you believe the edit should be made to the article, and so forth. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 02:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm aware of administrators and the role they play in protected edits. The few I know I don't want to overrburden. How do I identify others, especially those comfortable editing {{intricate}} templates? Conrad T. Pino 02:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, sometimes I'm just lost in the details. I'll check the recent editors of that template. Thanks again. Conrad T. Pino 03:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
A previous editor completed the work. Conrad T. Pino 12:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] capsaicin and chili

there is conflicting opinions on whether chili's cause or prevent cancer in these two articles...holla —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.216.122 (talk) 02:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Articel name

203.122.228.167 03:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Hi, can anyone help me with changing an article name?

You're looking for the move function. You can read up more about it at Help:Moving a page or request it at requested moves. You need an account to move pages, so unless you forgot to log in, you will need to use requested moves. James086Talk | Email 03:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] saving article contents as pdf

Similar to 'printable version' option under toolbox, is there a way in which the articles can be saved (say as a pdf file). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.200.200.74 (talk) 03:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC) no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.236.236 (talk) 07:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If you install e.g. PDFCreator on Windows, you can use your browser's print function to create pdf files from articles. — Ksero (leave me a message, things I've done) 10:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GNU Free Documentation License and how it relates to images in derivitive, commercial works

I'm sure this has been answered before, but I can't track down any answers and I'm having a heck of a time understanding exactly how to comply with the GNU FDL. I've read the license several times and it all seems to talk about manuals and such, not as much about images.

If I see an image, such as the Mona Lisa, which is part of a compilation that is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License (the Yorck Project, for example), and I make it into a derivitive work such as a collage or a t-shirt or a card that I then sell, what must I do?

The FAQ states: "It can therefore be reused only if you release any derived work under the GFDL. This requires that, among other things, you attribute the authors and allow others to freely copy your work."

I'm confused because, on the one hand, it says that it can be used commercially, but on the other I have to let other people freely copy my work. Really?

My questions: ++What else would I have to do? Is there something about linking to the GFDL? ++Where do I have to do this. It seems crazy to list the contributors and the GFDL on a t-shirt, for example. Could I put the information on a tag or description that goes with the t-shirt. ++Do I really have to let people copy my new, derivitive work for free? Can I not own the copyright on the new work, even if it is substantially different than the original? ++Do the people who copy my work also have to release it under the GFDL? Do they have to site me for the derivitive work, or the Yorck project?

Thank you all so very much in advance for your help. Best, Corinna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.241.132 (talk) 05:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, as you've noticed, the GFDL is not really written with images in mind. As Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ says, "Some people have complained that the GFDL is too hard to interpret and too hard for reusers of small works to comply with because the license can be longer than the work covered by the license.". Look at the page of the specific image that you want to use. There are a few different free licenses that are used for images in Wikipedia. Some images use the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 License, which is much more succinct and clear. At the Wikimedia Commons, they try to encourage multi-licensing of images.
Public domain picturers, like Image:Indischer version3.jpg and the other images in Commons:Category:PD-Art (Yorck Project), are not copyrighted. If you make a derivative work of such images, it's all yours with no catches or hidden clauses. You don't even have to say where it came from.

What else would I have to do? Is there something about linking to the GFDL? Where do I have to do this. It seems crazy to list the contributors and the GFDL on a t-shirt, for example. Could I put the information on a tag or description that goes with the t-shirt.

I think that, to abide by the GFDL, you need to print the three-page GFDL and distribute it with each T-shirt. On that little leaflet, you should write something like "this work is distributed under the GFDL. Image taken from Wikipedia: (url of image page)" (there's no need to list all contributors). That's how I read section 2, "verbatim copying" in the GFDL text.

Do I really have to let people copy my new, derivitive work for free?

Yes, if you use an image under the GFDL or CC-BY-SA license, but that just means that they can photograph your T-shirt and make another identical one if they want to. If you paint your own picture and print it on a T-shirt, it's a copyrighted work of art. If someone takes a photo of that T-shirt and publishes it (e.g. on a website or newspaper), you could sue them for copyright infringement. With a GFDL'd image, you can sue them if they publish the image and don't publish the three-page GFDL license with it .

Do the people who copy my work also have to release it under the GFDL? Do they have to site me for the derivitive work, or the Yorck project?

If you release your derivative work T-shirt under the GFDL, then yes, anyone who copies your work and redistributes it will have to do that under the GFDL. They should cite your derivative work (though I'm not quite sure how you should cite a T-shirt ).
I hope this makes things clearer . Also, note that I'm not a copyright lawyer... This is just a layman's interpretation — Ksero (leave me a message, things I've done) 10:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] help me

hi i need to know about structure the ring opening persulfate can u help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.90.77.66 (talk) 07:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

This page is only for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. You may want to ask at one of the reference desks. --Sopoforic 07:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] insurance

I would like to know about the best pension scheme that an insurance company provids for the general public. Is it posible to know with the comparison please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.63.240.9 (talk) 08:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

This page is only for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. You may want to ask at one of the reference desks. --Orange Mike 13:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting a category?

I made a typo when making the category "Category:Austrailian kendoka". I've since made the correct category "Category:Australian kendoka", but have no idea how to go about changing/getting rid of the old one. Can it be deleted? Brian Adler 13:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I've put a speedy deletion tag on the category's page, for an admin to take care of. It would have been wiser to use the "move" tab to move from the wrong to the new spelling, rather than creating a whole new category; but life's like that. --Orange Mike 13:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
You know, I actually looked for the 'move' tab and didn't see it. I'm looking now at some categories and don't see it there either. Am I missing something? Brian Adler 22:27, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
That seems like a candidate for speedy deletion. Just add the template {{db-c2}} to the category page. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion, where categories can be nominated for deletion or merging in more controversial cases, where discussion is needed to establish consensus.
Also, to link to categories without placing the article in that category, place a colon (:) in front of the word Category in the link: 
[[:Category:Australian kendoka]]
That also works for linking to image pages. — Ksero (leave me a message, things I've done) 14:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Is this the preferred way to link articles to categories? This is the first I've heard of this method. Brian Adler 22:27, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
No, I think what Ksero is referring to is how you can link to categories on pages without having the article be placed in that category. For example, if I want to add Beavis McBeanhead to a category called "Fictional antlions", I would type [[Category:Fictional antlions]] at the bottom of the Beavis McBeanhead page. But if I wanted to post a note on Talk:Beavis McBeanhead saying, "Hey, shouldn't this article be in Category:Fictional antlions?", I would type [[:Category:Fictional antlions]] on the talk page when i mention the category so that the category link shows up but so that Talk:Beavis McBeanhead is not added to that category. I hope this makes sense. :) — Brian (talk) 01:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moves from userspace to mainspace

I've been working on this: User:AndyJones/Sandbox/Dating Hamlet, and once I've completed it and added the sources I'm thinking of moving it into mainspace as Dating Hamlet. (Although that makes it sounds like Ophelia's sensational autobiography!) Anyway, my only question is whether it's possible to do that across a namespace, as a page move, or do I have to create the page in mainspace first, then copy the info across? AndyJones 13:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

First, you need to read the guidelines about Original Research. I fear that the article is not going to pass these standards, as it does seem to me to fit the description of Original Research; and that's not acceptable here. --Orange Mike 13:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
No idea what you mean. I just mentioned that I would add my sources, which are entirely mainstream scholarly ones. Besides, that was not my question. AndyJones 14:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you can move from user space to mainspace. This maintains the page history. Here is an example. If you are the only contributor then you can also choose to create a new page and copy the content. Copy-and-paste moves are not allowed when there are other contributors, because the page history is lost and the GFDL not satisfied. PrimeHunter 14:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Excellent, thank you both. Will do so as a page move. AndyJones 15:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree with Orange Mike, that this article is not going to meet Wikipedia's standards. Firstly, it's not an acceptable article subject, unless the date range of Hamlet is itself discussed by independent workds. Speculative timelines are not appropriate articles. It could be, at most, a brief section in the main Hamlet article if you have reliable sources. Leebo T/C 16:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I do hope you understand, Andy, that none of this is intended to disparage your scholarship in any way. --Orange Mike 16:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Correct. I have no doubt that the content of the article is well-researched, but Wikipedia is likely not the best place for it. Leebo T/C 16:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone for commenting, but I find these comments a bit shocking. The whole issue is the subject matter of numerous reliable sources and is widely discussed in academia. I will make the move, and if someone feels the urge to do so they can AfD me, and we'll argue it out there. In the meantime I'll mention this thread at Wikiproject Shakespeare to see if anyone there has a view. AndyJones 17:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that neither Leebo nor OrangeMike are familiar with the scholarship on this. It merits an article and would easily pass an AfD. Wrad 17:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

The content is encyclopedic, but it does not seem to merit a separate article. Also, perhaps this is just an issue created by having a temporary title, but Dating Hamlet would not meet the naming conventions. If this subject is intended to discuss scholarly efforts to date the work (and not just act as a timeline itself) then it should be named something that reflects that. Leebo T/C 17:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I really think it merits a separate article. Hamlet is already too long, and there is easily enough info to make Dating a GA, in my opinion. The title name is a small problem, easily fixed. Wrad 18:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I think Date of Hamlet would be a better name if an article is created. Google finds sources using that term [1]. [2] says "the date of Hamlet is one of the most fiercely-disputed topics in literary history". It has apparently caused some confusion that AndyJonesw asked a question about a move to mainspace before adding planned sources to the article. I agree with Orange Mike and Leebo that the current version is unsuited for mainspace, but maybe it will become suited later. PrimeHunter 23:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I think the information is excellent (expecially compared to what is presently in the article), but I don't think it warrants a seperate article, nor did I believe that was the original intent. And once the date ranges are sourced, as Andy can and will do, it will certainly be up to mainspace standards. Better in the Hamlet article, in place of the awkward dating section that is currently there. It is certainly as important (and more fact based) than many of the speculations that already fill the article itself. Hamlet is a long article - but I can hardly think of a worthier subject.Smatprt 06:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Warning templates' heading code creates edit problems on user talk pages

Templates such as Template:Web-warn leave headings coded as follows:

{{#if:{{{header|}}}|==[[:{{{1}}}]]==}}

This has the unacceptable result that subsequent sections on talk pages are misnumbered. See for instance User talk:Jojo123450 where the second heading, appearing as Spigit, has the code

{{#if:1|==[[:Spigit]]==}}

The [edit] buttons on the second and third headings pick up the wrong section, apparently because the wiki software does not count the above as a new section for the purposes of

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jojo123450&action=edit&section=2

so the edit program opens the subsequent section instead of that one. If you try and edit the final section, it says that there is no such section.

This needs fixing, but I haven't picked up how to code these things. (Secondary enquiry: is there a reference page on using variables in templates?) - Fayenatic (talk) 13:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

This is a bug in the software. I don't know whether it's been reported or not, yet. As a workaround, maybe the templates in question would work if they had a newline between the | and the == in |==? (It would be nice to produce cleaner output, but there's another bug, bug 5678, that prevents one of the more commonly used methods to do this working.) --ais523 14:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
So what's the best way forward? (i) Please will somebody reading this report the bug. (ii) Once it has been reported, how long is it likely to take to be fixed? (iii) In the light of that, is it worth inserting a newline into all the templates that have "|==" ? - Fayenatic (talk) 20:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] download wikipedia on mobile PC

hi there, a friend of mine used to have the whole wikpedia on his mobile PC/palmar and I was wondering a) if that's possible b)how could I do the same and download Wikipedia on my mobile PC ? is there a link in the main page or something? thanks a lot

gio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.243.199.58 (talk) 14:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

What you're probably looking for is to download the current revision of all articles. You can do this here at download.wikimedia.org. Be warned, though, it's a huge file and will take a very long time to download; you'll need to make sure your hard drive has enough space first. If you want other parts of Wikipedia, such as all revisions of articles or non-article pages, you can get them from this page. See also WP:DD for more information on this. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 16:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps you mean TomeRaider, it is a shareware application - you could try it to see if it is suitable before forking out $38. You could then download selected wikipedia articles. Гedʃtǁcɭ 18:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
If you're just talking about using Wikipedia on a handheld PC, you may be looking for Wapedia. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] search

How can I turn off the history data that appears under the search entry when typing in data there70.251.53.51 15:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If you wish to clear auto complete please try the following link:

Internet Explorer & FirefoxAndyreply 15:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] computer

computer serial port —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.166.100 (talk) 15:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If you have a question regarding a computer port please check out the Computer port (hardware) article or ask at the reference desk. Andyreply 15:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating pages

How do you create pages? I have done a search and it comes up with stuff which isn't relevant to what I want, so I want to create the pages but there is no where I can see where you can add pages —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 15:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page. —Qst (talk) 15:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --ais523 15:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating pages

Why can't you create pages when there is nothing about what u search for? there used to be a button which gave you the option to create the page, where has it gone? Why is it more difficult to create pages? I've looked on the links any they haven't helped me at all —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 16:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If you search for a title and it doesn't exist, you'll see "You searched for [whatever]" at the top of the page. [whatever] will be a red link you can click on to start the page. Alternatively, you could go to Help:Starting a new page. Leebo T/C 16:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] creating pages

I do a search for Warn and it gives the answer "The word warn may refer to:" then gives a list of stuff which I'm not refering to and there is no red link or anything to create the page as the warn I want to write doesn't have anything to do with the stuff in the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 16:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

What form of "warn" do you wish to address, that merits a separate article? --Orange Mike 16:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict) You should click the [edit] link on one of the existing sections you've created instead of starting new threads for each comment you make. In this case, what kind of subject is the "Warn" you want to discuss? You'd need to create a disambiguation for it. For instance, if there's a novel called "Warn", you'd have to create a page called Warn (novel). Leebo T/C 16:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Its for warn winches —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 16:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

You're talking about the company called Warn, correct. That page would be Warn Industries. Leebo T/C 16:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

no. Its about winches not cars —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 16:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Same parent company makes both. I don't think the winches alone merit an article. Leebo T/C 16:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

u from america because in UK warn just do winches no cars —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 16:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with Warn beyond this discussion, and my location does not impact my interpretation of Warn.com which says "The WARN Works® line of utility winches and hoists are specifically designed for professional trade workers and do-it-yourself consumers." They make both. Perhaps you're trying to say there is a US company called Warn that makes off-road equipment and winches, while there is also a UK company called Warn that only makes winches, but this seems unlikely to me. Leebo T/C 16:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

So how can I create a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landymad (talk • contribs) 16:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Search for the exact title you want to create. I recommended Warn Industries above, but if you are convinced that's not the warn winch company you're talking about, think of a different title. Leebo T/C 16:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge to tag problem

I'm going to start a merge project (Sulfa drug into Sulfonamide (medicine)) I know what needs to be done in terms of the information move and the eventual redirect. But the merge tag I want to put up top is giving me trouble. When I make one in the sand box the link that is supposed to go to Sulfonamide (medicine) ends up going to Wikipedia:Sulfonamide (medicine) which is not what I want. What am I doing wrong? I really want to get started on this properly.Lizz612 16:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

You're talking about the Wikipedia:Sandbox? Well, that page is in the Wikipedia namespace, which is why it's applying the same namespace to the location you're placing as the parameter value. If you preview your edit on the page you want to do it (without saving) it should look right. Leebo T/C 16:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Ah! I see now, thank you. Lizz612 17:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bonafide computation-powered permutation generator!

I have in my possesion a spreadsheet file, capable of accepting three lists of words and arranging them into a single list of the possible permutations. For example: (E. coli/Escherichia coli/bacterial/bacteria/yeast/Saccharomyces cerevisiae/S. cerevosoiae) (two hybrid/two-hybrid) (*nothing*/test/screen/screening/method/analysis). In total, that's 7x2x6 = 84 possible permutations! The list created can be used with another program (autoWikiBrowser, I think it's called) to quickly create redirects as appropriate. I want to make the file available to others to use, so that they may ease the irritating task of creating masses of redirects. What should I do next? --Seans Potato Business 17:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Database crash? What database crash?

A user who had trouble signing in was told the account was old and must have preceded "the" database crash, suggesting this was a big event, as opposed to "a" database crash. I have read that there are multiple servers so it wouldn't be a big deal if something happened to one, but what is "the" crash to which the user referred?Vchimpanzee 17:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't User:Jimbo Wales have predated such a crash? Anyway, I've heard of a mixup that resulted in the histories of some articles being lost in the transition between different software phases, but it didn't relate to user accounts. Leebo T/C 17:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Read m:February 2005 server crash for more information on it. Some information was lost from before that date. Woodym555 17:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] repairs

I purchased a 2006 Sorento from McCafferty Kia in Mechanicsburg, PA,

I purchased this car in 10/06. At that time the temoerture read- out seemed to work fine, however, as the weather warmed, it was incorrect less & less. McCafferty has replaced the senor twice and replaced the read-out inside also. They have reported that they now have problems with others. They are supposed to be in touch with you regarding this problem. As of yet, I have not heard of a result. That's why I'm reporting this direct to you.


Dianna R. Clouse ...personal details removed...—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dianna Clouse (talk • contribs) 18:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this page is for questions about using Wikipedia. You could take your question to the Reference Desk but I suspect the answer might be that we are an online encyclopedia and have no relationship with or influence over your Kia dealership. You best avenue for help might well be to go back to McCafferty and put your concerns to them. I took the liberty of removing your personal details - this page is highly visible across the internet and publishing such details is laying yourself open to uninvited email SPAM, unwanted visitors, and perhaps worse. Astronaut 18:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
They were supposed to be in contact with us? The users watching the help desk at Wikipedia? Perhaps you were not directed to the appropriate website? Leebo T/C 19:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I just edited a page and do not see it

I edited sock monkey pop culture and do not see it. Did I do something wrong? I saw it on the preview, but not once I saved it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeysisters (talk • contribs) 18:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If you didn't save it, then your edits were not completed. You must click the "Save page" button for your changes to take effect. If I misunderstood and you did save your edits, it's possible the page you created was deleted by an administrator. You may want to review the criteria for speedy deletion if that is the case. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] editing a page

I just edited a page on sock monkeys concerning pop culture. I saw it when I previewed what I did, but not when I hit save. I just asked this question a minute ago, but forgot to sign it. So I am trying again and I apoligize for submitting this twice. Thank you for helping me to figure out why my editing did not work. Monkeysisters 18:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

We have a page on sock monkeys if that's any help. Astronaut 19:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could someone please start a page on this?

I apologise if I am inconveniencing staff here, but I've gone through every tutorial and cannot find a way to actually START a new article. All I've succeeded in finding are page upon page of HOW to write an article.

My request is this. As I am currently pressed for time, could someone more knowledgeable on the functions of this site begin an article on this? It is centred on the Sci-fi novel Carnosaur by Harry Adam Knight, which was adapted into a film (an article of which is featured on Carnosaur (film)).

Again, apologies for my ignorance.


rm article content, inappropriate for the Help desk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark hyena (talk • contribs) 19:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you're looking for Help:Starting a new page or Wikipedia:Your first article. If that still doesn't work out for you, you can post your article at Articles for creation and they'll review it. Before you do either, though, be aware that you'll need to include multiple reliable sources for verification of the material you added. Articles without proper referencing may be deleted. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Numbers!!

When someone edits wikipedia, on the watchlist, there is a number next to every edit. Either it's a negative number: (-203) or a positive number: (+203)

Can someone tell me what in God's name are these numbers, what do they represent, and why are they different colors? Thanks, Lex94 Talk Contributions Guest Book 19:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It's simply the change in the size of an article from the edit in question. +203 would mean that the article became 203 bytes larger. Green is a visual representation of the positive value, red for negative. Leebo T/C 19:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment

Who makes the article importence, and the article class assessments? Juliancolton 19:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Users involved in WikiProjects assess the importance and quality of articles falling under within their coverage. You could ask on a WikiProjects talk page why certain articles were assessed in certain ways. Leebo T/C 19:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I am a member of the wikiproject tropical cyclones. Does that mean that I could assist in the assessments of article pages? Juliancolton 17:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] changing title of an article

is there any way to change the title of an article?

i'd like to change Hatteras networks to Hatteras Networks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewillingham (talk • contribs) 20:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It seems that someone else did it. However, in the future, you can use the move tab at the top of the page. See Help:Moving a page for details. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 20:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
See Help:Moving a page for some information. You need to use the move tab at the top of the page which i have done for you. I must tell you though, it needs a substantial rewrite to avoid possible deletion. It is written like an advertisement and could be speedied under the WP:CSD criteria as blatant advertisement. It also needs verifiable third-party sources which it does not have at the moment. Woodym555 20:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Ewillingham created his account today, so he wouldn't have access to the move tab for 3 more days. When you are unable to move a page (either because your account is too young, the page is move protected, or because the desired location already exists) you can request that an administrator perform the move at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Leebo T/C 20:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, i was about to say that, but instead I had to delete it as a copyvio of [3]. Woodym555 20:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deletion

how do i delete a page about me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpodd6 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Who are you, and why would the article need to be deleted? We do have rules and procedures for these matters. --Orange Mike 20:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Are you claiming to be Michael Podgorski? --Orange Mike 20:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Typically such requests are not honored, but since the article has a very weak claim to belonging on Wikipedia, I've nominated it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Podgorski. Leebo T/C 20:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding a pic that shares a filename with a different pic

I've created a page about the astronaut Anthony Llewellyn and wanted to add a picture of him to the info box. I wandered over to Commons to see if there was one already uploaded and there it is - filename Llewellyn.jpg. When I add that file name to my page, it brings up a picture of a piece of coal from the Llewellyn Formation that also has the filename Llewellyn.jpg.

I've read through the help pages and believe I've followed the correct file for adding an image, and am not sure what to do next.

Any help would be much appreciated. --Whoosher 20:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Re-upload it as Image:Anthony Llewellyn.jpg in Commons. Then use that image name here. Then follow the Commons:Deletion guidelines, i think you want the {{bad name }} tag. That is the only way around it I think. Anthony Llewellyn is a bit more descriptive anyway. Hope this helps. Woodym555 22:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Just give it a different name than the existing file. Woody's suggestion seems like a good idea. - Mgm|(talk) 22:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
That's great, thanks very much for your help. I was a bit nervous about uploading a duplicate image without confirmation that that was the right thing to do. Thanks again!--Whoosher 22:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] personal anecdote re Errol Flynn & his wikipedia

I had a personal anecdotal experience with Errol Flynn. I am not a good enough judge (editor?) as to whether it would add interest to his wikipedia, and where to place it in his wikipedia if it is considered to be of worthy interest.

I would like to think in terms of creating the article and submitting it to your review committee for further decision as to including it in his profile.

Sincerely yours, Fred A. Fairbanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.30.152 (talk) 20:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your consideration regarding the Errol Flynn article, but please be aware that Wikipedia has a strict policy of verifiability. If your experience cannot be verified by a reliable source apart from yourself, it is not possible to include it in the article. Leebo T/C 20:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Posting data in a table

Is it possible to post data on a Wiki in a table format? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.188.52.252 (talk) 21:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, see Help:Table for more information. Leebo T/C 22:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crash cover

I would like to add comments to: "Talk:Crash cover" but I cannot find out on the Wikipedia website how to do it.

Please explain how I can add my comments.Aerophil 21:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

While viewing Crash cover, click the Discussion at the top of the page. That will take you to Talk:Crash cover where you can click the "+" tab to add a section, or you can add to an existing section by clicking its Edit button. Sbowers3 23:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

How do I edit the taxt on the following page: "Crash Cover"?

When I click on edit, it brings up the section below the main text.Aerophil 22:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC).

Click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the screen to edit the entire page at once. Leebo T/C 22:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

How can I tell if I am Jewish? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.90.198.171 (talk) 23:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 23:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
That said, the page Who is a Jew? might help you. Raven4x4x 23:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)