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[edit] March 2

[edit] How to Upload Photos on Profile Pages?

Hello, I have been asked to upload/update a person's photo on their profile page, but I don't see any link to update/edit the page in this way - please advise on how-to process - thanks - gm

  1. Use the Upload file link in the toolbox on the left to upload an image. You will need to be logged-in to do so, I believe.
  2. Upload your image with an appropriate name
  3. On the page, add or modify the image link as necessary: see Help:Image if you have trouble.
  4. Enjoy.

Nihiltres 01:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor error in article: Hobby Products International

The article mistakenly reports that "In 2003 HPI merged with Hot Bodies". The actual merger date was April 1, 2005.

Rod Miller-Boyer Personnel Manager Hobby Products International email address and phone number commeneted out to avoid spam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.251.81.238 (talk • contribs)

I've made this change, but it would be great if you could provide some sort of independent news release to confirm this. *Mishatx*-In\Out 01:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
The history page on our website has the date listed now. Link to history page. Thanks for updating the Wiki info.
Alex Boyer
webmaster[at]hpiracing[dot]com
I just found out today that an IP request for insertion of content into an article provided incorrect info. I think we need better mechanism for such changes. Xiner (talk, email) 03:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't think we do. Just verify the information before adding it to an article. - Mgm|(talk) 05:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] suggestions about military service timeline

I was confused about Al Gore's military service information. It would be helpful to not only see the induction date and honorable discharged date but total months served. One also is expected to serve a period of active reserve and then two years inactive reserve but I wasn't aware of any mention of Gore's post active service activities. If Gore enlisted -as I understand it -it would be for three years as a RA (regular army as opposed to US (draftee) So to be very clear the total amount of months served would be more helpful in spotting if he had been given any special consideration by his early release. Nothing was mentioned about the "divinity" study request granted. How long did he stay in those studies? Again, TOTAL MONTHS SERVED! would be a very helpful addition to induction and release dates in hinting at any special "favors".

Please use the reference desk for this type of questions. Please also note WP:OR. Xiner (talk, email) 03:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of page

Dear Sir/Madam,

I recently created a page for an up and coming artist who has already taken the local and interstate scene by storm. Soon to be global!

Within 2 minutes of it being up I received a message saying that it may be deleted and that I was to enter {{hangon}} followed by a reason. I did so straight away, clicking okay only to be told that Luigi31 had already deleted my page.

What is with this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by DubDubPosse (talk • contribs)

There are some reasons, but I think it was deleted because the article's subject wasn't notable, or something of that sort--양복42 03:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Take a look a WP:NOTABILITY. An "up and coming" artist probably won't meet those requirements, and that makes the page a candidate to be speedy deleted. *Mishatx*-In\Out 04:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Also note that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; future notability is not the same as present notability. Veinor (talk to me) 04:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About new articles

I am looking for my article that i typed this morning. I can't find it at search bar. It said it's not there. How could that be? Do you look at it first before post it? The title of the article is Ami A. Laochuazon. Thank you very much.

--Patrick2000 04:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)patrick

It appears that you posted it at Wikipedia:Introduction, which is not the appropriate way to create articles. The correct way is to go to the article in question (in this case Ami A. Laochuazon), and edit that. However, it seems likely that it would have been deleted anyway, or at least put up at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, as the article would have failed to satisfy the notability criteria for people. Veinor (talk to me) 04:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Book Cover photo in article about the writer

Can we use a book cover photo of the subject of an article as the article's main picture? Specifically, I'd like to use the cover of John Edward's book "Crossing Over" [1] in the John Edward article as the main, top photograph in the subject's infobox. Other editors have disputed its use as "advertisement" or by claiming that since the article is not about the book itself, the book can only be used in the section on Edward's books. It's the only shot we have that is fair use and has his likeness on the cover. Dreadlocke ☥ 04:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

If you are certain the image is irreplaceable, feel free to put it, in the infobox of the article, as you can't put a fair use image in otherwise. However,the irreplaceable criteria is invalid for the mentioned article as it is possible to get a free image. See WP:IMAGE for more information --K.Z Talk • Vandal • Contrib 04:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that meets Fair Use requirements. The book cover could be used as a fair use image on an article about the book, but not about the book's subject. Corvus cornix 17:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Fair use states that it can be used to illustrate an article discussing the book in question. So the book image can be used in an article about the book's subject so long as it is also discussing the book. Morphh (talk) 18:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] format content

How do I format my data for right or left side in the main body of my page?

Use "<div align=right>INSERT TEXT HERE</div> " to get:
INSERT TEXT HERE
Does that help?--TBCΦtalk? 06:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elephant Men: Page Disappeared!

This article was put up a few months ago (Novemberish?) by me (Emanroga) - it pertains to the Tufts University Ultimate Frisbee team. I am a former Elephant Man, so I suppose I bent the rule about no self-wikiing, but I didn't include any controversial information and cited references throughout.

My main problem, however, is that all record of this article has disappeared completely. I came back to check on the page about a month after creation, and it was still there - in fact, it had been added to the "List of Ultimate Frisbee teams" by someone else, although I didn't note any other edits. In other words, it was there, and it was active. Now I can't find it. I can't find links to it. I can't even find evidence of its deletion -or creation - in my logs. I've checked possible alternate entries - Elephant Man, E-Men, emen, E-Man, eman - a few crappy comic book heroes, but no sign of my page. None of their histories showed any overwriting, either.

This is a bit distressing, and not just because of the time I took to write the entry. Also because it has apparently disappeared without a trace or any evidence or discussion. Any thoughts on how I might track remnants?

Thanks,

Craig Remillard "Emanroga"

Elephant men was deleted on Februrary 1 after going through a proposed deletion process that received no objections. The closing admin was Mailer diablo and he marked it as "P1" - which according to User:Mailer diablo/P states that the subject of the article did not meet WP:NOTABILITY. If you object to the deletion, instructions for appealing are on that "P" page. It looks like Mailer diablo is taking a wikibreak, though, so if you don't get a response you might consider deletion review, but make sure you're familiar with WP:NOTABILITY and WP:NOT before starting that process. *Mishatx*-In\Out 07:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] (+###) or (-###) next to title of article on Watchlist

When I check my watchlist, I see a number in brackets with a + or a -, in green or red writing:

(-1,939) in red or (+251) in green.

I have noticed that pages that have been blanked out or replaced with a few lines of profanity have a negative red number as opposed to other normal edits that have a positive green number.

Can someone please explain to me what exactly this means?

Thanks --Spebi[talk] 09:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#What do the colored numbers mean on the Watchlist or Recent Changes? --WikiSlasher 09:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ramco Systems Change in Logo

Dear Sir/ Madam, There is a change in Logo of Ramco Systems which is clearly indicated in the website link provided below the article on Ramco . However the Ramco Logo on your site is not updated. The link for new logo is as follows:

http://www.ramco.com/images/logo.gif

Regards, Rajiv Sadavarti Ramco Systems Limited

Feel free to update the image yourself instead of listing it here. Be Bold --K.Z Talk • Vandal • Contrib 10:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ethipian atheltes

Dear Sir.. I have just written a book about the history of the ethiopians athletes, and i want to aware you that many data about this issue in wikipedia are wrong.. many many.. but the worst of all is in iaaf world championship junior beijing 2006, the winner was ibrahim jeylan and ibrahim is from ethiopia and in wikipedia appears as kenyan.. pls corrdct this daa soon..

regards

I've corrected this. You can correct other errors yourself by clicking the edit this page button at the top of ever page and amending the information. Alternatively, if you list errors here then someone else can come along and do it. Thanks for reporting this. --Cherry blossom tree 12:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] moved a question to Xiner, concerning editing an article

[edit] having been asked to move my question to here, about a text on musical theory (rubato)

                   == COPY OF THE LAST MAILS ==

Bold text

Hmm, I've forgotten what this is about, but if you post it on the help desk (WP:HD), I and other people will see it and be able to help you further. Thanks!

--- On Thu 03/01, Dsoslglece < (removed) > wrote:

From: Dsoslglece [(removed)] To: (removed) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:29:41 GMT Subject: Wikipedia e-mail

Hi, Xiner, and thanks having advise me to correct my article on rubato. I've read now the links you indicated and have also changed my article accordingly (I hope!)... I already had edit it in that way earlier, since I wrote it originally as part of another thing (was talking then at the first person...), but certainly not edited enough...I hope it is correct now, but would like to have somewhere, from someone a sort of confirmation of it being right, before to put it back where it was... Should that come from you or must I go to someone else... Thanks in advance.


                   == MY ORIGINAL QUESTION ==


I published a text in musical theory, about tempo rubato, Xiner advised me to edit it (after having moved it) and, before to try to put it back in Music theory and to add some musical examples, I'd like to make sure it is now in total compliance with Wiki's standards. I did send a mail to Xiner and had been asked to move it up to here.

So, if Xiner or someone else could tell me (or must I maybe directly put that edited article back in there, and wait and see?),

Thanks in advance.

                  Dsoslglece

[edit] Ampersand or And?

I've come across a IP-user who is going through articles swapping every occurence of the word and for an ampersand &, and abbreviating in places (does not --> don't for example). I can't find anywhere sensible to report this. Chris Bradshaw 11:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Tell them not to make serialised changes without consensus, and report it on the administrators' incident noticeboard. --ais523 11:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Chris Bradshaw 11:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

This is good advice but leaves me wondering: where would one go to get consensus on this sort of thing? Notinasnaid 12:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

WT:MOS? --ais523 12:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Conveniently, this is already in the Manual of Style. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Contractions for the contractions issue. (Contractions are discouraged but not forbidden; they should only be used if the text doesn't flow properly without them, and if there's no reasonable alternative wording.) Not using the ampersand in regular writing is just plain vanilla English. It's never used even in the space-conscious world of newspaper writing. We don't even use it to abbreviate section headings (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Wording). If the editor comes back and starts doing it again, remind them politely that Wikipedia is not an SMS text message and that it's okay to write out whole words. If that fails, block. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wilhelm Gustloff (ship)

Can you please look at this article.

You will see that someone has added a section to this article in Russian.

Can you please get a Wikipedia Russian language expert to translate it into English or please delete that entire section.

It is wrong for people to add foreign language sections into English Wikipedia.

That section belongs in Russian Wikipedia not here.

Please either have it translated or deleted.--Tovojolo 12:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I see that a Wikipedia Admin, MacGyverMagic, deleted it and left a warning to Zasdcxz not to post Russian into English Wikipedia, you should note that probably the same user, using IP no, 84.9.148.93, restored the Russian section and added a very bad English translation.

Articles in English Wikipedia should be in English.

Please have it deleted and issue the person responsible with a stronger warning.--Tovojolo 13:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I've removed it. It was a machine translation and most readable information was already covered elsewhere in the article. - Mgm|(talk) 13:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to restore apparently obliterated content (caused by a redirect?)

Yesterday, the Code_generation article was a disambiguation page. After marking it for speedy deletion, a contributor withdrew that action, but then changed the article to a redirect. This was done despite objections and a request for some supporting rationale first. I attempted to restore the page to the status quo ante to 'undo' the undiscussed modification, but now the history page for the affected article appears to have been obliterated. Is there any way to restore the previous content? The redirect appears to have had the same consequence as a deletion. dr.ef.tymac 15:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

  • According to the deletion log, it was deleted as spam, so unless you're very sure that it isn't, I wouldn't suggest recreating it. IF you are sure, then you can always ask Luigi30 very politely if they wouldn't mind looking at the deleted revision and restoring it. Failing that, there's always deletion review--VectorPotentialTalk 15:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
  • BTW, creating a redirect doesn't wipe the content of the page, or it's history. You have your chain of events backwards, first the page was speedy deleted, then it was turned into a redirect--VectorPotentialTalk 15:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the part I overlooked was the fact that it was speedily deleted at all. I mistakenly thought the contributor had withdrawn the deletion request. Since nothing in the page (to me anyway) remotely resembled WP:Spam, request for speedy deletion seemed inappropriate to begin with, (as opposed to WP:afd, for example). dr.ef.tymac 15:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, as I said, there are two options you can take to restore the content, ask Luigi30 politely or take it to deletion review. In the mean time I've added both articles I could find on the subject to the disambig page, as well as fixed a few broken redirects to that page--VectorPotentialTalk 15:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info and clarifications, but you already restored what was deleted (the disambiguation page itself). dr.ef.tymac 16:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fired Heaters

What is the tonnage of fired heater tubes bought within the United States of America? 208.28.201.5 15:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

  • You're probably looking for the reference desk (: --VectorPotentialTalk 15:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding Tags

How do I add a tag to indicate a bias in an article? For example the 'Concluding Comment' section in the Reincarnation article. Aequitas1234 16:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

You're probably looking for {{NPOV}} or {{unbalanced}} (just type the tag, with the {{ }} brackets, in the relevant place in the article); there's a full list at WP:TC (the cleanup template list). --ais523 16:15, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Aequitas1234 16:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article ID search

How can I do a quick search for an article if I have the article ID number?63.96.4.10 16:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Not sure when this would come up, but you can query the database through the URL to find out what article/page corresponds to its pageid ('curid') like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&pageids=1000 (and for a revid ('oldid') like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&revids=100000). Hope that helps! --ais523 16:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misattributed source

A wikipedia article has an image that is attributed to our institution, but I can find no evidence that we hold the copyright to this image. What is the best way to handle this? Newslibrary 17:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)newslibrary The page in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kennewickmanstanford.jpg

Do you know what the source is? For the moment, I'll mark it as an image that's unsourced and therefore liable to be deleted. --ais523 18:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry, the uploader has now corrected the source. --ais523 18:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error in an article

I'm sorry if it's here, but it's impossible to find anything.

I found a mistake in an article and want to see about getting it corrected.

The article is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beautiful_music

And it says WEZC Charlotte, N. C., is now WLYT. The problem is that WEZC, the beautiful music station listed in the article, is WKQC, which has an article. WEZC, a soft adult contemporary or MOR station in the years 1989-1995, was a beautiful music station called WRLX and is now WLYT, which has an article. Both are in Charlotte, N. C.

Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. If you let us know which article it is and what the problem is, we may be able to correct it ourselves instead. --ais523 17:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I've changed it for you. Bear in mind that you can make the change yourself, if you like. --ais523 18:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template allowing image to be clicked to get to another wikilinked page.

A while ago, someone asked about some odd template that made it so that clicking the image brought you to a page of your choice, rather than the image page. It seems to be in action on the front page of Memory Alpha, but they have some really, really weird stuff going on with templates over there and I thought somebody here would know of the "domestic" template here. Can someone point me to what I'm talking about? -Wooty Woot? contribs 18:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The template is {{click}} but it seems it's not working. Take a look at Template:Featured article or Template:WikipediaSister, there it's done using another method. FrancoGG ( talk ) 18:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
You're thinking of {{click}}. It's normally a bad idea to use it, though (and it was up for TfD quite recently, but was kept). --ais523 18:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to search logs for CFD

How can an editor search the logs of Categories for Discussion, e.g. to find out whether something he wants to create would be a re-creation and therefore liable to speedy deletion (always an unpleasant experience)? If there is an answer, I propose to note it at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Howto#Notes_for_nominators and maybe elsewhere. Fayenatic london (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, one solution is to use Google, with "inurl:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion" as one of the search terms. I'm not sure if it can be done with Wikipedia's own search facilities. --ais523 18:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... it's worse than that now, there is also Categories for discussion as well as deletion. I could add a link saying click here then replace foo at the start of the Google search box with the word(s) you are looking for. After clicking Search, also click the link near the foot of the Google page to "repeat the search with the omitted results included." - Fayenatic london (talk) 20:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
You can generate a cleaner search form (with an initially empty search input field) by using Google's custom search, but I don't know how to search two "directories" at once this way. For example, these URLs display clean search forms which initially embed the equivalent restriction of the inurl advanced search operators mentioned above:
Evidently we can't specify a substring like: "...Categories for d"; that generates a search form, but it does not seem to find anything:
I don't know if the Google custom search URL can contain multiple pairs of domains and sitesearch parameters; feel free to experiment. I use this method to provide Google search links to specific manuals within a given Web site; for example, to search DocBook: The Definitive Guide in English:
Empirical testing suggests it may be necessary for the domains and sitesearch parameters to have exactly the same value. I could not find anything about this on Google Guide, but I did not try searching it too hard (indeed, I did not even try searching Google Guide with a custom Google search like this). --Teratornis 23:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Getting a reference to our school?

Sir/Madam, Could I get some information about having our school listed as a reference in WIKI? We offer a complete virtual self defense program through our members area. Our site is www.dragonkenpo.us and we teach a kenpo based program. Additionally our program is currently in use in over 25 US states and a few different countries. Thanks for your time. Ron Pfeiffer www.dragonkenpo.us contact link has email and other info <redacted e-mail>

Well, you'd have to prove that you saitsfy the notability criteria in the article, otherwise it might be deleted. And listing your e-mail address is a bad idea; spambots have been known to pick them up from often-visited pages such as this one. Veinor (talk to me) 18:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Making tournament brackets

I'm having trouble finding documentation for posting tournament brackets on Wikipedia. I'd like to document a 12-team tournament with two play-in games into the quarterfinal rounds—the Missouri Valley Conference basketball tournament. Where can I find information on making brackets?

Thanks, Borksamoht 19:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

See Template:8TeamBracket. You'll have to document the play-in games seperately, then just use the bracket for the top 8 teams play offs. --Maelwys 19:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm....12 teams and 2 play-ins. That might be difficult. In addition to the above suggestion, look at 2006 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament and see how they set it up and check out Category:Tournament bracket templates for all tournament brackets. There may be a better on for you than the 8 team - you never know.↔NMajdan•talk 19:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ogg

I am trying to upload a ogg Vorbis file, but I seem unable to do this. I reach the upload page, browse to choose the appropriate file (which has the proper name) and hit the "upload" button. The program stalls for a long time, and then refreshes the page to the beginning (everything is blank). Are there any explanations for why this might be happening?

Jeff24.68.247.28 19:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Reboot or try another browser? Xiner (talk, email) 19:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GuluWalk page

Greetings,

Just wanted to get something corrected ... The page for 'GuluWalk' is spelled with a space between the u and the W, where it should be one word (still a capital W though) ... Check out the website at www.guluwalk.com to verify. Thanks for your help.

I've moved the page for you. See GuluWalk. Dismas|(talk) 20:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
And I've removed the space as required. Note that anyone can edit Wikipedia, including yourself. x42bn6 Talk 20:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary?

Is there a way to code an auto-edit summary for the Formatter.Js code ? -- Darkest Hour 20:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Is this what you want? document.editform.wpSummary.value = "your edit summary here". FrancoGG ( talk ) 20:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm.. I don't know how that script works.. is it all done in only one step (like clicking a button), or you have to do different things in order to clean whitespace, fixing unicode characters...? If it's all done in one step, I think it should work adding that line at the end (as you did). Have you purged the cache? FrancoGG ( talk ) 21:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Well its a one click and its over with. But you have to save it. I dont think I cleared the catch. I go do that now. -- Darkest Hour 21:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
    • No, it entirly disables the script. -- Darkest Hour 21:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Try now. Purge the cache. FrancoGG ( talk ) 22:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking.. it sets the edit summary even if you aren't formatting (in every edit you do), doesn't it? FrancoGG ( talk ) 22:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Yep... try now. Puge the cache. FrancoGG ( talk ) 22:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exercise Physiology

To whom this may concern: The wikipedia web page [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_physiology ] in regards to "Exercise Physiology" is entirely inaccurate and biased by a historical presence (by the editor of this section, I assume) of what exercise physiology was before the founding of the American Society of Exercise Physiologists (http://www.asep.org/) in 1997. In the United States, there is only 'one' professional organization of exercise physiologists and that is ASEP, regardless of how small or otherwise it may be by comparison to organizations that have been around for 50+ years. If this web page cannot accurately reflect the topics of interest of those who use it, of what value is it? The "editor" can't edit and have it his/her way, too. This simple fact is that I've tried to reach a balance in the presentation, after what I write has been edited and reposted by the editor. If the editor (or whomever) has complete authority over the topic, then again why have people like myself, an exercise physiologist for 40 years, post in wikipedia? In short, the American College of Sports Medicine is not an exercise physiology organization. It is a sports medicine and exercise science organization, and "clinical exercise physiology" is not exercise physiology! I thought there was honesty and integrity in this process. If there isn't -- please advise or if you can't then I will delete "wikipedia" from the ASEP website. Sincerely, Tommy Boone, PhD, MPH, MA, FASEP, EPC Professor and Chair Director, Exercise Physiology Laboratories Department of Exercise Physiology The College of St. Scholastica Duluth, MN 55811 <Email-removed>

If you have an issue with the article, you can discuss it on the talk page. Talk:Exercise physiology. - GhostPirate 21:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help tagging uploaded images to Bruce Hornsby article

I've recently uploaded four images to the Bruce Hornsby article.

I used the

Copyrighted This image is copyrighted. The copyright holder allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that 
NOTE: The following conditions must not include terms which restrict usage to educational or not-for-profit purposes or prohibit derivatives.
Details about the above note...

If the image requires attribution, use {{Attribution}} instead.

image tag, thinking that tag would allow me to give the source of the images appropriate credit. Another User brought to my attention that this tag is only used in cases where the original photographer is uploading work. I made a mistake.

My question is, how should these images be tagged? They are images from http://www.bruuuce.com, a Bruce Hornsby fan website, and the copyright is held by Si Twining, the owner and operator of the site. Prior to uploading the images, I asked his permissions, then, after having been made aware of my tagging error, I formally requested his permissions with the Wikipedia form letter.

I have received confirmation of permissions granted from the holder of copyrights for the images, and I have sent that information to the m:OTRS system for review. I am about to make note of this on each image page.

In the meantime, how should these images be tagged?

Thanks User Snidelysnide Snidleysnide 21:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat}} seems to be an appropriate tag. Another would be {{Attribution}}; however, that one doesn't allow you to put the name as a parameter. Just make sure that an admin with OTRS access tags the images to verify the tag. If you have anymore copyright questions, you may get a faster/better answer by asking at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. ShadowHalo 06:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article v. Biographical entry

I wrote a biographical entry, but am unsure as to whether or not I actually posted it as an article or as a biography. I would like to make sure that it's in the biography section.

Thank you,

Malachi

There isn't a separate section for biographies; they are part of the article namespace. I assume you're referring to the Marc j lane article. You might want to read Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for important points about writing a biography. Hope that helps. —PurpleRAIN 22:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] By mistake....

To whom it may concern, I am writing in regards to ask if a problem will occur or if any information will be deleted from the "Laguna Pueblo" page? I just started my account today, after viewing the "Laguna Pueblo" page; my name was listed on the " Laguna Pueblo most famous" list. I was intrested in what it said about me and my career as an artist but unfortunately, I might pushed the wrong button and deleted, information?? Can it be fixed?? Thank you for your time and consideration.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterserpent (talk • contribs)

There haven't been any changes to the page since February 19, and I can't see any recent changes that removed a name, so I think you're okay. For future reference, you might want to look at Help:Reverting to see how to revert changes that have been made. If you're new to Wikipedia, you can also look at Wikipedia:Introduction and Help:Editing. —PurpleRAIN 22:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article addition to a Category

How can I check which articles have recently been added to a specific category? I wanted to keep watch over which articles were being categorized in a certain category, so I could help maintain the category better. -Nima Baghaei (talk) 23:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think MediaWiki has such a feature built-in. If the category you want to monitor is not large, perhaps the simplest solution would be to browse to the category page periodically (say, once per week), and save an HTML file snapshot of the page from your browser. Then you could easily note the changes between the current category page and the previous snapshot file, by opening both in browser tabs, aligning the pages similarly with vertical scroll, and alternately clicking between them. If new articles were categorized into the category since the date of the previous snapshot, you would see the list of articles appear to jump at the position of the first new article as you clicked back and forth between them. This is the same principle used by astronomers in a blink comparator to detect movements of celestial objects against the background of "fixed stars". If the category is very large, this method will not be as convenient, because MediaWiki displays at most 200 article titles per page, so you would have to save additional HTML snapshot files. Other methods might include:
  • Download dumps of the Wikipedia database (WP:DUMP), set up your own local instance of Wikipedia (for example, by installing MediaWiki under XAMPP), and compare a category page as it appeared in dump files from different dates. (Wow.)
  • Write your own MediaWiki extension to generate the statistics you need, and then either install it on your own local instance of Wikipedia, or convince the powers that be to install it on the canonical Wikipedia. But first, of course you would search through the existing extensions to see if anyone else has already written one that does what you want.
Good luck. --Teratornis 13:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You can also use the Related changes tool in the toolbox for this. For categories, this shows changes to articles in the category. For more about this, please see Help:Category. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought about that, but when I looked at the Related changes for a category, I could not see an easy way to distinguish articles newly added to a category from all the other edits to articles already in the category, unless editors typed edit summaries to that effect. How do you tell which articles in the Recent changes list are newly added to the category, without examining the diffs for every edit to see which ones introduce a category tag? (I'm aware I might be asking a really stupid question.) --Teratornis 18:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Right. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. Someone watching a category might even just recognize new articles popping up in the related changes listing. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inline tables

Is there any way to make inline tables using wiki markup or otherwise? Normally Wikipedia adds <p> tags to all the stuff before and after an article, so display: inline or display: inline-table doesn't work either. worthawholebean talk 23:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Table. *Mishatx*-In\Out 00:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't help. It doesn't give anything about inline tables. worthawholebean talkcontribs 13:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You might be able to fake it by putting the material you want to appear around the inline table into another larger table that contains the whole mess. Reminds me of the poem: "Big bugs have little bugs upon their backs to bite 'em; and little bugs have littler still, and so ad infinitum." --Teratornis 13:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
This is for my signature (notice that it's currently not exactly the best solution) so I have no control on the surrounding text. worthawholebean talkcontribs 21:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
What you have is perfectly fine. I strongly recommend using that instead of a table. In addition, <table> is a block element, not an inline one (see HTML element). GracenotesT § 21:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating a page

I've got something to add to the Wiktionary, so how do I create an entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nschlete14 (talk • contribs)

Same as you do here, except you do it at http://en.wiktionary.org/ To find out how you create a page here, go to Help:Starting a new page. Dismas|(talk) 23:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Go to wiktionary:Help:Contents and poke around. x42bn6 Talk 00:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)