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[edit] Changing A Link

I am the "webmaster" of the Henry S. Jacobs Camp wikipedia page. Below is my issue.

If you go the Ginnefer Goodwin page, it mentions that she attended our camp. The link on that page goes to the Union of Reform Judaism page. How can we switch to go to our wikipedia page?

Thanks.

First, you might want to check out WP:OWN. No one is the 'webmaster' of any Wikipedia page. As to the link, I'll take a look at that. -- Kesh 01:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, there is no Wikipedia page for Ginnefer Goodwin. Are you referring to an outside website? If so, we have no control over that. -- Kesh 01:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Kesh beat me to it, no-one owns anything here. its a wiki. As for Ginnefer Goodwin, that page doesn't exist... but if you were to change a link to direct it somewhere simply type [[the article you want to link to|and here goes the text that will appear on the page]]. Hope this helps. ~ peaceful dreams 01:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Part of being a Help desk helper is knowing how to de-garble the questions people ask. The first step is to convert sloppy page references into actual links. For example, this page exists: Union for Reform Judaism. Clicking toolbox | What links here shows its backlinks. One of them is: Ginnifer Goodwin. That's probably what the questioner meant by "Ginnefer Goodwin". Tiny spelling errors like that are usually inconsequential in real life, but on Wikipedia we depend on exact spellings to look pages up. One very good reason to refer to pages as links is to catch such spelling errors, which will show up as red links. --Teratornis 02:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice catch! Ginnifer is an unusal enough spelling I'd have never come across it, and didn't think to check the What Links Here bit. -- Kesh 02:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New accounts and old histories...

Hi there. I've decided that i really should edit from an account rather than my IP number, as I'm a bit worried that the other users of my particular IP number may choose to start editing Wikipedia too and this could cause problems. There's also a privacy issue here. My question is - If I get an account, can the contribution history of my IP number be merged with that of my new account to prevent confusion? My talk page? If not, is there any way of deleting or hiding or otherwise dealing appropriately with my IP contributions? I have not created the account yet, but it would seem a pity to loose my IP contributions. What should I do? Advice would be very much appreciated. Best regards, 195.137.96.79 01:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think IP contributions can be merged into an account, I'm afraid, but the talk page can, just copy over the comments. - Zeibura ^(Talk) 01:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on the circumstances) your IP edits will not carry over to your new account. Consider it a fresh start. -- Kesh 02:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, well if that's how it is - that's how it is! Pity though... Thanks a lot for your help 195.137.96.79 02:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want, you can put something on your user page to the effect of "Prior to July 2007, I edited under the IP 195.137.96.79 (talk · contribs)". Confusing Manifestation 03:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with specific user in specific article

I am referring to the user TJ_Spyke and the article List of Virtual Console games (North America). The article has been fully protected for months because of an edit war. The debate is whether or not to include the point values in the table wit hall the games. Recently, I started a discussion on the talk page of how we could remove the points listing from the tables (since there are over 100 titles in the tables, all following the same general form for points cost, except 2 games), and everyone except TJ_Spyke agreed, and offered suggestions. So, I took into account all of the suggestions, and created a new table listing just the points and placed it at the bottom of the article, and removed the points from the larger tables. Without even discussing his thoughts, then, TJ_Spyke reverted my edit. This article should not be fully protected, since new games come out each and every week, and it takes forever to have it edited by a moderator every single week... but no changes can be made to it with this guy around; he has been doing this for months, and will not even consider a minor change to how he envisions the article. Is there a way to prevent a certain user from editing a certain article, and who should I contact to help solve the problem? Thanks for your help! Miles Blues 02:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Follow the procedures outlined at dispute resolution. -- Kesh 02:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image and information

I;m trying to post information about a new magazine and I was wondering what the meta tag would be for a field like the one here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rue_Morgue

Thank you.

Dfrydendall 02:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I assume you want to know how to make that funky infobox at the top of the article. I am copying the source code here (with "nowiki" tags), and you can edit it on the WP:SANDBOX to replace each data field as appropriate.

While I have your attention, you should make sure the magazine fulfills the notability criteria for articles. Otherwise, it might be deleted, and I don't want your work to fall in vain.

Here's the source code:

{{Infobox_Magazine|
  title          = Rue Morgue |
  image        = [[Image:Ruemorgue2.jpg|thumb|225px|center]] ''Issue 62 of Rue Morgue |
  editor         = Jovanka Vuckovic |
  frequency      = Monthly (exception of February) |
  category       = Horror |
  company        = Marrs Media Inc.  |
  firstdate      = October 1997 |
  country        = [[Canada]] |
  website        = [http://www.rue-morgue.com/ Official Site] |}}

Shalom ^Hello 02:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Different image appearing

I'm quite confused. I changed the image in the Chayanne article from Image:Chayanne.JPG (a copyvio) to Image:Chayanne.jpg, which I just uploaded at Commons. Now some headshot of the guy (not the free picture I uploaded) is showing up in the article. I checked the history of that filename, and there was a file uploaded there, but it was deleted in December and looks different from the one that's showing up. Anyone know what's happening? ShadowHalo 03:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The link is picking up a file that's been locally uploaded to en.wikipedia.org, rather than the commons. Images uploaded to the English Wikipedia itself take precidence over Commons links when they share the same name. You'll need to rename your file on the commons and link to the new name. -- Kesh 03:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

You can't link to it as commons:Image:Chayanne.jpg? Well, I guess I answered my own question there. Apparently not. --tjstrf talk 04:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware that images on English Wikipedia override ones from the Commons. But the image appearing in the article does not appear to ever have been uploaded here. ShadowHalo 05:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Alright, something odd is going on. If you look at this diff, you get the image linked above. At this diff, you added the link which gives us a totally different image, one which is also totally different from yours on Commons. My suspicion is either a) there's a cached image on Wikipedia somewhere that is overriding your Commons image, or b) something on Commons is pointing to the wrong image file. Beyond that, I don't know what's going on. -- Kesh 05:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

How about a cached deleted commons image? Perhaps something here. Prodego ^talk 06:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I tried purging the cache of the article and the two image pages (the local copy and the Commons one), but nothing seems to have changed. Weird. Confusing Manifestation 06:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the question to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Different image appearing to see if someone there knows what's happening. ShadowHalo 04:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family question

dears, i belongs to kashmiri family (mir) but i can understand that mir family is really a kashmiri family or a other if any body know about this family plz solve my this problem i trully thankfill to him or her knowl. because i have not any proof of my family so that i disturbe . and make sure that the information u provide me is that true .plz yours

ammar aslam mir

bye .

I'm afraid this is a help page about how to use wikipedia, we don't really answer those sorts of questions (and to be honest, I'm not even sure what you are asking). --Fredrick day 09:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm thinking the same as Fredrick day, try Reference Desk, they might be able to help.Blacksmith2 ^talk 09:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protecting logos / Logos copyrights

Dear Sir or Madame,

I added a logo o a page European Computer Driving Licence and I don't know how to protect the copyrights for this logo. could yoy please help with this and let me know what to do?

Many thanks in advance, Tanja —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.228.114 (talk • contribs)

Well, the European Computer Driving Licence article appears to have some problems and needs work. Its talk page is a bit messy as well, with entries from some people who seem unfamiliar with the talk page guidelines. I tried to encourage better talk page use by placing a {{Talkheader}} template on it. As to the image copyright problem, copyrights in general are a complicated problem on Wikipedia. For an extensive list of references, see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Cop. See WP:IUP for more specific information. --Teratornis 14:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to edit this page?

I would like to add citations and more content to the page on flatulence, but I can't. I am a registered user. How can I add more content to this page?

Alanw337 10:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Alan--Alanw337 10:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Flatulence has been semi-protected, and so unregistered users and users whose accounts relatively new (roughly four days old is the limit, I believe) can't edit the page. Until you can, you're welcome to go to the article's talk page (the "discussion" tab up the top) and make your suggestions there. Confusing Manifestation 11:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] watchlist

How can I add articles to my watchlist? Im having a blonde day and cant seem to figure it out. Jayflips —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayflips (talk • contribs)

Click the "watch" tab at the top when you are looking at the page. PrimeHunter 12:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Izarra

I wish to know how to pronounce this French Liqueur. Is it Iz R a or Iz air a?

24.59.219.181 11:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry this is for Wikipedia related questions only, sorry. The Sunshine Man 11:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia, but the question can be asked at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. We have an article about Izarra but it does not give pronunciation. PrimeHunter 12:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes you get lucky with Google. Let's try it: Google:Izarra pronunciation finds a bunch of pages which purport to know how to pronounce this (evidently) Basque language word. If Izarra is a Basque word, I'd imagine someone at the Basque Wikipedia could help you out. Or try Portal:Basque or Wikipedia:WikiProject Basque or ask this guy: User:Sugaar or someone else in Category:User eu. --Teratornis 14:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abdalle Isse Yusuf

Abdalle Isse Yusuf is a young Somali stateman, he was born in the Southern East of the country now knonn as Puntland state of Somalai.

that's nice - do you have a question about wikipedia? --Fredrick day 12:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing a redirect

I would like to remove the redirect on Grindlays Bank. I would like to add an article on Grindlays Bank, but when I click on the name in the List of Banks I get automatically redirected to Standard Chartered Bank. StanCHart acquired Grindlays in 2000, but the bank had an existence before that that I would like to document. Acad Ronin 13:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

To reach the Grindlays Bank article, click on that link and let it redirect you to the Standard Chartered Bank article. At the top of the article, under the title, it will say "redirected from Grindlays Bank". Click on the link in that phrase to get back, without redirects, to the Grindlays article. You can then edit that article. Dismas|^(talk) 13:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] account problem

I opened an account yesterday (June 26) with the username Tabithajohnson. Today when I attempt to log on, I get a message saying that there's no such username. What has happened? Why can't I access my account and how can I edit the text I submitted under that username?

I'm afraid the name 'Tabithajohnson' does not appear on our list of users. It is possible you made a typo when creating the name. You said you made some edits under that name; can you remember the pages you edited? Those edits will be recorded in the history of each page, so if you can remember a page you edited you can look there and find out the name of your account. Raven4x4x 13:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you on the same Wikipedia? this is the english one. Each of the wikipedias has a separate login. -Arch dude 14:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Sources?

Can I take a sentence/paragraph from somewhere, changed most of it, but the information is still there, and put it in an article? And cite it as a source? -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe that's pretty much the way we are supposed to write articles on Wikipedia. See: WP:RS, WP:CITE, and WP:CITET. --Teratornis 15:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

When citing another source, it's a good idea to use your own words to convey meaning and let your citation provide reference to the origina. "Changing most of it" isn't quite right, as most of the time the sentence will read poorly or not make as much sense. Just summarize the source in your own words, or quote it directly. -- Kesh 16:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Can I copy a few or more (the entire thing?) paragraphs from the source? And I meant, litrally copy. Obviously, its a violation of the copyright, but I'm checking. Or should I change it first? -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exporting Wiki content

How do I export wiki pages?

I'm not sure quite what you're asking. Try looking at Wikipedia:Database dump. In general, if you wish to copy pages, by hand, you must cite Wikipedia as the original source of the page, based on the licensing requirements of the GFDL. Shalom ^Hello 14:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you may find something you can use at User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Exp. Your question is vague because you did not specify what you want to export to, and it's not even clear what wiki you want to export from. The easiest form of exporting is from one MediaWiki wiki to another one. For example, lots of people who start their own MediaWiki wikis copy various templates and pages from well-developed wikis such as Wikipedia. As both the source and destination systems run the same software, no file conversion is necessary. However, if you want to export pages from a wiki to a different type of software, such as a word processing program, then you must convert wikitext into a file format the destination system can read. And then the adventure begins. --Teratornis 15:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Israel and my alleged "non-neutral" point of view

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kev Kiernan (talk • contribs) (Comment removed. Wikipedia is not a soapbox.} Shalom ^Hello 14:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The poster was apparently trying to reply to a User talk post by Gareth Hughes (the name of User:Garzo). A reply should be posted to User talk:Garzo instead of here (where Gareth Hughes will probably not see it). PrimeHunter 15:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nathalie Baye films

Could you please give me a site where I can purchase Nathalie Baye Films?

Thank you,

Dennis Pallis

Nathalie Baye has an article which lists her filmography. Try pasting the name of the film you want into Google Search. Or try a retailer such as Amazon.com. --Teratornis 14:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Commons

Is everything from Wikipedia Commons public domain? Or is it GFDL? -- Casmith_789 (talk) 14:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons is a separate project than Wikipedia, but we can still answer your question. It is not all public domain, nor all GFDL. Wikipedia has an article that covers roughly the inclusion policy of the Commons: Wikimedia_Commons#Policies_and_usage. Sancho 15:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Both. Quoting from the Wikipedia article on Wikimedia Commons:

The files uploaded to the Commons repository can be used like locally uploaded files on all other projects on the Wikimedia servers in all languages, including Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikisource and Wikinews, or downloaded for offsite use, as all of the content is either in the public domain or released under free licenses such as the GNU Free Documentation License.

Shalom ^Hello 15:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Also note that the name is Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia Commons, although the latter is such a common misspelling (for obvious reasons) that it is a redirect to the correct name. --Teratornis 15:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] search question

I created the page "Whitney Young Birthplace and Museum" a few weeks ago, but when I search for that page it doesn't come up. The only way I can get to that page is through the link I made on the "Whitney Young" page. Please help!

J00zweig 14:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Whitney Young Birthplace and Museum shows up as a link, so if it does not appear in Wikipedia's oft-maligned search feature, that probably means the search index updating job is lagging several weeks behind the new article creation. In the meantime, you can use Google Search on Wikipedia, which does find the article. --Teratornis 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing an entry

Hello, As a user, am I allowed to edit an entry. If not, I would like to suggest revision of one. Thanks for your help, LoriBooBoo 15:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LoriBooBoo (talk • contribs)

Yes, please feel free to edit. Even anonymous users may edit. I've posted some tips at User_talk:LoriBooBoo (your talk page) to help you get started. Welcome :-) Sancho 15:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are allowed to edit nearly any page, except for a few that may be semi-protected from editing by IPs and new users due to vandalism (you'll be able to edit those once your account is 5 days old), and an even smaller set that are protected from editing by anyone but administrators, like the Main page and a few other ones where editing them incorrectly might break the entire website. --tjstrf talk 15:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Editing to learn how to edit. While you are still new, you may wish to suggest changes rather than make them yourself, particularly if you want to remove existing content. On Wikipedia, every article has an associated talk page where we can discuss changes to articles before we actually make them. This is useful for finding consensus and avoiding edit wars, and also to act as a sanity check on any one person's thinking. If something looks wrong to you, it's good to ask other people what they think. On Wikipedia we have plenty of time to make sure we get things right (see WP:CHILL and WP:TIND). --Teratornis 15:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Starting a new page

Martha Stewart Flowers was hoping to have their own Wikipedia page and I was wondering what the best way was to start a page. We are listed on the Martha Stewart Omnimedia page and would like to have a separate page that goes further into detail about the business. If someone could assist me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you,

Heidi Jessop

Heidijessop 16:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

If you are closely associated with this business, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against creating an article about it- if it is truly a notable organization, someone who doesn't work for the business will inevitably create the article, but if it does not meet our notability guidelines, it will be deleted almost immediately. -FisherQueen (Talk) 16:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EGEE

Dear Help Desk,

My name is Sy Holsinger and I work on the EGEE project. I was searching EGEE and after reading and skimming to the bottom, I saw the external link to the EGEE website. It is incorrectly liked as it currently stands "http://eu-egee.org" it should be "http://www.eu-egee.org". I would appreciate you rectifying this on behalf of the entire project.

Sincerely,

Sy Holsinger

Fixed. You can always help out and make changes to an article by editing it the same way you did this page. --Hetar 16:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Special:listusers

Is there a way to transclude that page with a limmited number of entires. When I try it gives me this: Special:Listusers/1 -Icewedge 16:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

If you just type in the first few letters of a username into the search box, it should work. I'm not sure why it's not working for you. Shalom ^Hello 02:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing the name of a page to one already used - ReGenesis

The page for the UK Genesis tribute band ReGenesis is named Re-Genesis. The dash is incorrect, and probably stems from the original author taking it from the band website www.re-genesis.net, which is only like that because someone else got to www.regenesis.net first.

If I move the page from Re-Genesis to ReGenesis (band) will a disambiguation page be created automatically to distinguish it from Regenesis the TV show?

Are their any other complications / things I need to be aware of if I move this?

When you move a page it will automaticaly be redirected to the page after the move. It seems acceptable given the titles to leave it like that. -Icewedge 16:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

No, a disambiguation page will not be automatically created. Read up on Wikipedia:Disambiguation. If there are only two pages with same title, hatnotes would be best. — Shinhan < talk > 08:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Before creating the article, please read WP:BAND to see if the band meets Wikipedia's musician notability guideline. Corvus cornix 20:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miami Museum of Science & Planetarium Update

I am trying to change the name of the Museum from Miami Museum of Science & Planetarium to Miami Science Museum. The text in the body is editable but I need to change the title/Museum name. Is this possible?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Museum_of_Science_&_Planetarium

199.227.86.10 16:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Only registered users whose accounts are 4 days old or more can rename pages. -- Kesh 17:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License question

I've noticed a PNG image that I want to convert to a SVG version. The PNG version is licensed as GFDL. Am I correct in assuming that since this is a derivative work, I also have to make it GFDL? I'm asking because someone else made a worse quality SVG version (text saved as paths and so small as to be hard to read) on Commons and marked it as PD (which is also my preferred license). --Pekaje 20:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it needs to be GFDL since it's a derivative. (Aren't images usually GFDL/CC though?) That doesn't prevent you from trying to contact the original uploader to modify his license though. --tjstrf talk 20:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Supposedly I could also re-tag the image as GFDL (which is also a perfectly acceptable license for me) after I upload the updated version, right? I mean, I'm not actually basing my version on the PD SVG (since it's in poor quality), but rather making a new version with the same name (so I don't have to change it in many different wikis). --Pekaje 20:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I see no reason you couldn't do that, it seems reasonable enough. That's really a question for the guys over at commons though, since they might want to delete the previous revisions after you update it. --tjstrf talk 20:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll see if I can get their opinion on it. Thanks for the input, though. --Pekaje 20:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading a photograph with permission

I have permission to use a photograph in an article, and I thought I uploaded it but it hasn't shown up on te article. Please advise. Thanks.

article: David Bottoms picture: http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwvil/images/2003/1202/davidbottoms.jpg

You have uploaded the image (Image:Davidbottoms.jpg), however simply uploading it will not automatically place it in the correct article. You must manually put it in the article with a code like this: [[Image:Davidbottoms.jpg|right|David Bottoms at blah in blah, blah]].

Also, simply claiming you have permission is not enough. If you are not the photographer than you need written permision from the photographer. If you already have permission, as you say, than see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission#When permission is confirmed to find out what to do next. --Yarnalgo _{talk to me} 21:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting my account

How do I delete my account?

You don't. But you can, of course, stop using it at any time. Friday (talk) 21:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

But i want it gone.

Just don't touch it, and it won't hurt you. Friday (talk) 21:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

yeah, but you don't know that. I want no trace of this left

Accounts with contributions cannot be deleted since this would allow another user to create the account, and claim authorship of those edits. It is not possible for your edits to be removed entirely; for this reason, removing the account would potentially violate copyrights by allowing for such authorship claims. You can, of course, delete your own user pages. For more information, check out Wikipedia:User page#How do I delete my user and user talk pages?. --Hetar 21:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

See also m:Right to vanish. -- Kesh 21:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

You can also get yourself renamed and have all your old stuff deleted and also, don't leave any trails for anyone to follow. --70.233.167.83 21:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error

I got this while changing my password:

= Internal error =

Invalid NULL return from broken hook logPrefsPassword
 
Backtrace:

#0 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(214): wfRunHooks('PrefsPasswordAu...', Array)
 #1 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(117): PreferencesForm->savePreferences()
 #2 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(14): PreferencesForm->execute()
 #3 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(653): wfSpecialPreferences(NULL, Object(SpecialPage))
 #4 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(459): SpecialPage->execute(NULL)
 #5 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(203): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title))
 #6 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(45): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest))
 #7 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 #8 /usr/local/apache/common-local/live-1.5/index.php(3): require('/usr/local/apac...')
 #9 {main}

Any reason as to why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Razorclaw (talk • contribs) 21:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Searching the help namespace

I'm trying to figure out if there's an easier way to search the Help namespace, (not for me, I know where most things are by now) but for the noobs. It'd be great if there was an easy/obvious way to search just the Help namespace. The closest I can come is linking to something like this. But even this only works if the person knows to use the search field below the tick boxes. Is there some easier way to search just the Help namespace, without having to run a different search first? --JayHenry 22:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes. You can use Google Search, specifically a custom Google Search. Here are some examples:

Here's a sample search of the Help: namespace for the keyword "search". I collect useful searches on my user page: User:Teratornis#Useful searches. I like Google Search better than Wikipedia's built-in search most of the time, because Google tolerates spelling errors and verb tenses and so on. And Google has true phrase searching. --Teratornis 01:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a good non-wikipedia solution. Does anyone know if there's a way to link to a Help:Namespace search within Wikipedia? --JayHenry 03:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

like this? I just took your search and removed the actual term you were searching for... — Shinhan < talk > 07:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

You would think so. But if you actually try to search in that box, you'll see that all the results are main space. --JayHenry 13:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where do people come from moving into Frankfort, Illinois67.167.250.59 22:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I am looking to find if there is any report of people who move into Frankfort, Illinois. I am looking to see if there a specific place most new residences come from. For instance lets say 20% of all residents come from Mokena, Il. I do not know it such a thing exsits, but if does I sure would like to know where and how to find it. Thanks

This is the Help desk which for questions about how to edit and use Wikipedia. For general knowledge or research questions such as yours, please see the Reference desk. Dismas|^(talk) 22:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)