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[edit] February 9

[edit] Delete an image?

Does anyone know how to delete a previously uploaded image? I uploaded an image a short while ago, but decided that it wasn't necessary and wanted to delete it. Snowonster 00:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Just edit the image's page and place {{db-author}} in it. An administrator will delete the image shortly. Shadow1 (talk) 00:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] my Biography

Hello,

I am trying to fix the Bio about me. Some people changed a few things and removed my pictures. I have rewritten the bio, but I can't seem to get the three pictures to go to my site. The listing is my name "Shaun Walker" and my changes with the text are there, but not the pcitures. I did upload them, but I don't know where they went.

Can you help me with this? My e-mail is: <E-mail address removed to prevent spam>

Sincerely, Shaun

Sure. Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy explains why you generally should never work on articles about yourself or articles on subjects you are personally involved with. See also the policy on autobiographies. That said, in order to get the images to appear on a page, you'll have to edit the page to include the images. Just uploading them isn't enough. But to be honest, I don't know how to edit pages that way, so somebody else will have to help you with that bit. --Tkynerd 01:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Linking via images is technically possible, but it circumvents the wiki image page, which isn't good. And as per above, I suggest you don't make an article about yourself. As I say, "if you're notable enough to be on wikipedia, someone else will have added you."

[edit] Discussion area

how do you post on the discussion area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.248.39 (talk • contribs)

@24.115.248.39: You can post on the discussion area by clicking the edit button, typing your comment, signing it and saving the page just like you did here. --WikiSlasher 06:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC) (Cut and pasted from second section, back when this section and the next section were one, I tried to respond to both 24.115.248.39 and andyspud in the same post and then it got separated.) --WikiSlasher 12:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not clear what you mean by "discussion area". You edit any page in Wikipedia by clicking on the "edit" tab. A few pages are protected against edits except by registered editors, but normally talk pages (where articles can be discussed) are editable by anyone. -- John Broughton (☎☎) 13:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commenting on a page

is there a way you can generally coment on a page? like a buletin board for frequently read pages? if there isnt one then i think it woukd be a good idea.. -- andyspud02:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)~~

There's the talk tab next to the article tab to make a comment. According to the talk page guidelines there shouldn't be conversation not to do with the article but most of the time you can get away with it, but if general conversation is cluttering up too much of the page it'll get archived or wiped. If you're logged in you can sign your posts automatically with four tildes (~~~~).

[edit] is there a Reverse Dictionary possibility ? or how can I ask question like...

Is there a word that means," a hat trick where a player scores one goal in each period?"

sports questions / ice hockey

MGMody MGMody 02:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the reference desk should be able to help you. Xiner (talk, email) 03:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This might sound silly but...

How do you type this little fella: "|" ? I'm sick of clicking the button in the insert box, but I can't work out how to use the keyboard to get it on the screen. It definitely appears on the same button as "`" and "¬", the one above tab, but no matter what key combinations I try, I can't get it to appear. It's a British Standard laptop keyboard if that helps... Tbone762 03:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the British keyboard, but have you tried the button on top of the Enter/Return key? It's a vertical bar of two broken lines, but it does give what you want, I think. Xiner (talk, email) 03:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

According to British and American keyboards you can do AltGr + the key above Tab. Hope this works; I can't check since I have an American keyboard. Dave6 talk 03:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Seems like it's the first one that works, thanks for the help, guys! Tbone762 03:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, on a British standard laptop, you can use the broken-line on the left, next to the shift button. It shows this |. Skittle 23:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

On my British laptop keyboard, it's hold down shift, and then press the broken vertical line above the left Ctrl (the Z is to the right of it, left Shift is to the left of it, A is above it). | --Mnem eson 10:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

What's the rule about using non-famous quotes in an article? Do they always have to be cited? (Some of the quotes in the Mike Dirnt article aren't.) Thanks, --Grant M 04:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, quotations should always be cited where used. Trebor 07:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

If the quotes are relevant, it's always better to find sources. If you can't find any, move it to the talk page. Only delete them immediately if they violate WP:BLP. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing article title

The entry for McClelland and Stewart (the publishing house) should properly be McClelland & Stewart (with an ampersand). I've changed it in the body of the article, but how do I change it in the title?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Crimscote (talk • contribs)

The way to do it is to move the page. However this can only be done after you have had an account for 4 (I think) days. According to their website the ampersand is correct so I have moved it to McClelland & Stewart. James086^Talk 07:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] health status of call centre executives+obesity prevalence in world, Indiaamong executives

I am carry out a thesis in the topic DIETARY &LIFESTYLE PATTER OF CALL CENRE EXECUTIVES &TO ASES THEIR RISK FOR OBESITY. NUTRITION EDUCATION PROGRAMME.In this regard i would like to access the relavent topic to my study. So i would like to know if any referrence materail is available in your website, or in any articles.

I would also like to know if you could send the relevant articles ,or referrences to my mail id.

I would be thankful to hear from you.

Yours faithfuly,

surya deepti,

09.02.2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.3.111.69 (talk • contribs)

Interesting topic :)

You can search Wikipedia for different articles related to your thesis. Please see here for instructions. Some articles that might be relevant, or at least point to other sources of interest, could be: Help desk; Diet (nutrition); Lifestyle; Obesity. Be sure to check the External Links, See Also, and/or References sections of articles that match for possible, further relevant sources of information. Good luck! —Xhantar^Talk 08:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] meaning of rian

my baby boy name is RIAN... WHAT IS THE MEANING OF RIAN

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. —Xhantar^Talk 07:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

If Rian is a variant spelling of Ryan, then it means King. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 13:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating new articles

Italic textBold texthow can we wrrite an article on wikipidia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sggandhe (talk • contribs)

Please see Help:Starting_a_new_article. —Xhantar^Talk 11:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Note: As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you.

[edit] Problem with entry display

I thought you might like to know that your entry on "Clinical Depression" is not displaying properly.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.101.191 (talk • contribs)

For me it displays correct and according to the article history it has been correct since 12:30, February 8, 2007. Can you be a little more specific? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] creating a page

how do i creat a page on Wikipedia, i want to creat a page under PS2 games, the game is called Extermination—Preceding unsigned comment added by Valkyrie Iceman (talk • contribs)

Please see Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. Cheers Pea ceNT 12:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry we already have an article about that game. See Extermination (video game). - Mgm|^(talk) 12:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] one account

dear sir,

i need one account to access wikipedia, wikibooks, and other projects.

how can i make it.

thanks

This is one of the most requested features on the Wikimedia wikis ever, but it hasn't been implemented yet. m:SUL details some of the efforts to implement it that have happened. For the time being, you'll have to create a separate account on each of the projects; if you use the same username and email address, it will make it easier to give you a single account if and when that feature is ever implemented. --ais523 13:22, 9 February 2007 (U T C)

At the moment, there isn't an easy way. You'll have to create individual accounts on each Wikimedia site. However, OpenID should be implemented soon, which could provide the solution.

Quite conincidently, I was coming here to ask if anyone knew a certain date for OpenID implementation... --saxsux 13:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disable wiki-markup in edit summary

Is it possible to disable wiki-markup in edit summary? I want the edit summary to show [[like this one|this]]. I tried to disable it with <nowiki>, but it doesn't work; it keeps show up like this. --Joshua C hi e w 13:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it isn't possible. (When people want to do this, they normally leave off a closing bracket and type it [[like this one|this] instead). You can preview your edit summaries by using the 'show preview' button after typing one in, so you can test edit-summary markup (which isn't very complicated). --ais523 13:49, 9 February 2007 (U T C)

I looked up Help:Edit summary myself and found that it is not possible. Anyway, thanks for the reply and the suggestion. --Joshua C hi e w 15:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can I upload images

Can I upload images related to the article published on Wikipedia?

Yes, we need more images! Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Images may be helpful. Xiner (talk, email) 14:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] assembly language

what is the basic instruction of assembly language.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.223.25.2 (talk • contribs)

Hi, your best bet for questions about computing would be the computing reference desk. Just click on that link and ask away. (This page is for help with Wikipedia itself). You may also want to take a look at Assembly_language#Language_design. Thanks, and good luck! TheronJ 14:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] physics

what kind of laser which used for bose einstein condensation203.130.9.24

Please ask Science questions here: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. GhostPirate 14:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] messed up a redirect

I created a stub Palegar, then found that Palegar is another spelling of Palayakarra. So I cut my text out of Palegar and pasted it into Palayakarra, then I wanted it to be so that someone who looked for Palegar would be redirected to Palayakarra. But I messed it up and can't undo it. Very sorry. Itsmejudith 15:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I guess you mean it should redirect to Palayakarrar, so I've fixed that. --pgk 15:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I see my mistake. Your help much appreciated. Itsmejudith 15:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Upload PHOTOGRAPHS!!!!!!!!

I have a question---- HOW CAN I UPLOAD A PHOTO?? and also IF I HAVE ALREADY UPLOADED THE PHOTO WHY I CAN`T SEE IT IN THE PAGE WHERE I`M EDITING??????? I would really really appreciate if somebody can answer this complicated question!!!!!

wikithewako Thank you!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikithewako (talk • contribs)

You may want to read Wikipedia:Images first. Xiner (talk, email) 15:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Or see our help page for images. Trebor 15:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Magadalene in Talmud?

How do I contact a contributor about a citation I cannot find. A contributor to the Mary Magdalene article cites a censored part of the Talmud. I can't find his citation.Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indianastatefair (talk • contribs)

Look through the history of the article and see which contributor added the information. Then try contacting them on their talk page. If the information remains unsourced, then you are allowed to remove it (see our verifiability policy). Trebor 15:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yearbook citation?

What citation template should I use to cite a university yearbook?↔NMajdan•talk 16:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

You can see a list of citation templates (and a few others with similar names) at Special:Prefixindex/Template:Cite. Out of those, {{cite book}} seems the most appropriate. (Note that the citation templates are quite flexible, so it's possible that several would work; just leave out the fields that are inappropriate for a particular use.) --ais523 16:37, 9 February 2007 (U T C)

[edit] Search delay question

Why my article "Theory of evolution of an intelligent ecosystem " is not shown in the search?

The search function runs off its own index, which takes time to update. A new article should be searchable within a week. --ais523 18:17, 9 February 2007 (U T C)

[edit] Image move possible?

Is it possibe to move an image and all of its associated tags, discussion pages, etc. to a new image name? Some joker uploaded a picture of Grover Cleveland Middle School and named it [[Image:Hell.jpg]]. That same person also wrote the stub on Grover Cleveland Middle School. Can the image be moved? SmartGuy 17:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The only way to do that is to re-upload the image under the new name. Save it to your computer; then re-upload it. Then mark the old image for speedy deletion as a duplicate. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suspicious password reminders

Hi,

In the last week I've received two e-mails from wiki saying that someone has asked wiki to send a new password to me. It wasn't me. One could be coincidence, but I'm skeptical that two requests are coincidence. Is there any additional measures I can take? Should I report the requester's IP address to wiki?

thanks, Ehb 18:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

You may want to go to WP:AN and post the headers of the emails on the talk page of the IP. Xiner (talk, email) 18:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revival_Fellowship

IT appears that there are several disgruntled ex-members of the organisation whos duty is to edit and write misleading information regarding the organisation.

References to cults, abuse, etc are misleading and incorrect. Infact, legal action can be taken for slander of a company/organisation.

How can we deal with this?

Fix it. If they continue to revert for more than 3 times, call 3RR on them. GofG _|^|_| Contribs 18:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest trying to communicate with the people in question on talk pages before it gets to that stage. If the edits are vandalism, you can give vandalism warnings; if they're not obviously vandalism, try going through the steps of dispute resolution. Notifying the admin's incident noticeboard can also be helpful in complex cases. --ais523 18:56, 9 February 2007 (U T C)

[edit] Creating a link within a previously written article

I'm probably being dense here. Despite reading your excellent reference about how to edit an article, I seem incapable of doing what I'd like to do. Within your article about Guy Gavriel Kay's wonderful Fionavar Tapestry series, I could add some detail to your characters. Dave Martyniuk and Kim Ford have links to articles specifically about them; Kevin Laine, Paul Schaefer, and Jennifer Lowell do not. I am quite familiar with these stories, as I have read and re-read them several times, but I don't know how to create links from the main article about the Fionavar Tapestry to new individual articles. Do I need to write the individual articles and then you would create the links? Please let me know, or else I won't feel comfortable trying to attempt this.

Sincerely yours, Nancy Jay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pnmehjay (talk • contribs)

The nuts and bolts of creating a link are at Wikipedia:Editing_FAQ#How_do_I_make_links.3F; basically, all you do is add a pair of square brackets around the term: [[ ]]. So if I wanted to link to the article "Tree", I would write [[Tree]], which would produce Tree. If you make a link to an article that already exists, the link will be blue, like the link to Tree was. If you make a link to an article that does not yet exist, the link will be red, like if I tried to link to an article called Trees are really cool. Redlinks are fine as long as the subject could at some point have an article written about it. Providing the subjects are notable enough, you are welcome to write articles on the subjects, though you can also just add the links. -- Natalya 20:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

As Natalya mentioned, I would just edit the Fionavar Tapestry article, and make wiki (internal) links of the words which you plan on turning into new articles. To do this, enclose the relevant word(s) between square brackets, e.g.:

[[Kevin Laine]]

This will show up as: Kevin Laine

If the new links point to articles that do not already exist, they will turn up as redlinks. Clicking on those redlinks will then allow you to quickly create the relevant new articles.

However, please see:

Please also ensure that the subjects of the new articles you plan on creating are notable enough, and remember to cite your sources.

Hope this helps! —Xhantar^Talk 20:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Salil

why did you delete salil?

it was a legitamite topic.

is it just because he's indian? racist jerk.

The article was not deleted because he is Indian. It was deleted because the article had no assertion of importance or significance. Articles that lack such information qualify for speedy deletion. In this case, the article fell under criterion A7 as the deletion log shows. If you do not believe the article should have been deleted, you are welcome to leave a polite message on the deleting admin's talk page, who in this case was BorgQueen; I'd recommend obtaining some reliable sources with which to verify Salil's notability before doing so, however. I hope this helps to answer your concern, and I wish you a most wonderful day! Kyra_~(talk) 20:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need to find resonse to Upload

I posted a file/question, entitled "Pursuit of Money is Foolishness" at or about Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 6:15:57 PM. It was originally intended for Organization of Concerned Scientists, but sent to a wider audience. Response was promised within 12 hours, and would be sent to the IP address on file. I do not remember entering an email address, and was unaware of 'my talk' frame when logged in. Thought it would be sent to my IP address on POP mail.

Have signed up a NEW user passcode ID, so can't access my original and forgotton account for posted reply.

Can you send me the response to the uploaded question, or must I resubmit???

Your question is a little confusing. From what I understand, you posted a question on Wikipedia, and someone told you they would respond within 12 hours to your IP address.

An IP address is different from an e-mail address. Put simply, an IP address identifies your particular computer on the network. Wikipedia users who have not logged in are identified by their IP address (4 numbers separated by periods, like 123.45.67.89).

If the response was sent to the talk page for your IP address, you should be able to see it by logging out, and then going to Special:MyTalk. If it isn't there, then I would suggest that your best bet is to resubmit the question. I'm not sure what the nature of your question is, but questions about using Wikipedia can be posted right here. Knowledge-related questions should be posted to the appropriate section of the Wikipedia:Reference desk.

Hope that helps. Let me know if you have further questions. —P^urple ^RA^IN 21:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright of images intended for use on Wikipedia

Hi all,

I intend to use images from this United States Fire Administration report, on the article on this fire. I am assuming that they are in the public domain, as images produced by the United States Federal Government, and could be tagged with {{PD-USGov}}. However, as a UK citizen I am unsure of US copyright law, and want confirmation of this from someone US-based before I upload anything. Thanks, Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 20:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, as long as the image was produced by the US government, then it is in the public domain. I believe the images you wish to use do indeed qualify as public domain under the US Code. I'd be bold and go ahead and upload them. I hope you have a most wonderful day, and happy editing! Kyra_~(talk) 22:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. As it is late here in the UK (I run on the same time as Wikipedia), I will upload them tomorrow for use on the article; which I hope to nominate for GA immediatly after. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 23:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirecting various possible name titles one may search on

I recently wrote an article named Genealogia deorum gentilium libri, however when another person searches for this they may use these possible titles listed that I would like to then have it redirected to my article as the results. How do I do that, or can someone more knowledgeable write this up so that those searches get to my new article? Are the searches case sensitive on upper case and lower case letters (capital letters) or if one spelled it all with lower case letters, would it be found anyway even though the article itself has capital letters in some of the words of the title (like below titles)?

Genealogia deorum gentilium
Genealogy of the Gods
Genealogy of the Myths
Genealogy of the Mythical Gods
Genealogy of the Mythology Gods
Genealogy of the Mythological Gods
Boccaccio's Genealogia deorum gentilium
Boccaccio's Genealogia deorum gentilium libri
Boccaccio's Genealogy of the Gods
Boccaccio's Genealogy of the Myths
On the Genealogy of the Gods of the Gentiles

--Doug ^talk 21:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Doug. You will need to create the mentioned articles as redirects. For example, to redirect Genealogia deorum gentilium to Genealogia deorum gentilium libri, simply create the Genealogia deorum gentilium article, and enter:

#REDIRECT [[Genealogia deorum gentilium libri]]. This needs to be the first (and normally, only) line in the new article. Note, though, that you can still add the redirect page to the relevant category/ies, which is most likely a good idea, in this case.

Searches are not case sensitive.

Hope this helps! Feel free to post here again if there is anything else you need help with. —Xhantar^Talk 22:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes! That worked great. I have them all done now, with the Categories within each REDIRECT as you recommended. Thanks.--Doug ^talk 23:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] membership

how do i join?

Leo

See WP:WHY (which mainly explains why getting an account is a good idea, but also should have a nice big waiting for you). :) Hope that helps! Luna Santin 22:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Romadrid

This needs fixing somehow: Romadrid

thanx

I've deleted the article, since it was out of place in an English encyclopedia. Thanks for drawing it to our attention. Canderson7 ^(talk) 23:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] anon editing

Where does it say "Add your opinion to an article, click save and wow youve edited your first article"? I have read it somewhere but cant find it. 30% of the reverts Ive done have been taking out bias comments. 60% have to do with the male anatomy. 5% page blanking. 10% other. Please direct me to it so I can change it and hopefully cut down on that type of vandalism.Cheers: --Darkest Hour • © • RfC 23:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

That shouldn't be anywhere. Maybe that was vandalism? Prodego ^talk 00:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fonts

What font is Wikipedia designed to be displayed in? It used to display nicely on my computer, then I unloaded a whole bunch of fonts and now it is very hard to read. I would like to know what font it's designed to be read in so that I can put it back on the computer and be able to read it again! Thanks. Katherine.

Try clicking View...Text size...Normal/Medium in your browser. Xiner (talk, email) 00:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)